School and 'rules' re shorts under dress

[oblada]

Before I take this further quick 'poll'; does your school insist that girls wear shorts under their dress if they want to mess about at break time in a way that could involve someone seeing their knickers? Would you expect a rule like this? My daughter is saying that her school and her after school club have told her off for doing gymnastic 'moves' during break time whilst wearing a dress with no shorts or tights underneath. She says she's been told it's 'rude' because people can see her knickers. She is 6yrs old btw. I think this is completely bonkers and she should be allowed to do as she wish as long as she is not actually showing her 'privates' to people on purpose. Underpants are underpants and are not offensive (to me). Of course I don't know yet how much she has actually been told off, or whether it's peer pressure rather than school so I'll go and ask later. But thought I'd gather some views!

Why does it annoy you boys are never in the position to flash their pants? What a bloody strange thing to be annoyed about.

@DayKay

Not exactly true that it's only girls.

I have memories (that I can't erase from my head even decades later) or boys testicals falling out of their gym shorts at school without them realising when doing fitness classes.

Early high school ish age, maybe 11-12, definitely before I wanted to see balls on a boy at school and before they were choosing to knowingly show them!

Am still disturbed at the memory.

So no, it's not just girls!

Trouble is most girls knickers don't actually provide much coverage and you end up seeing more than just pants. I'm not sure if gussets used to be wider and stronger elastic like another poster suggested but I wouldn't be surprised if so.

I have little ones sitting crossed legged floor and have to say dress/skirt to knees to the girls. I think often it's not the pants that 'offend' but nobody wants to say "I can see your privates"

It's not the norm at my kids' school - apart from on PE day where half the class forgets to take their PE kit off before putting their uniform back on anyway! Mind you if they started getting at the girls for that I'd be complaining about the current trend for the lads to take their shirts off as they leave school and run out shouting "we're the naked boys" in retaliation.

Both my kids are shit at cartwheels and can never kick their legs up high enough to show their knickers anyway! The thing that amuses me is that they spend ages while getting changed for PE comparing who's got what picture on their pants anyway!

Skirt/pinafore/dress and pants have never stopped any of three my DDs climbing frames or trees.

I am in my forties and wear dresses all the time, including when cycling - no shorts underneath. My dresses aren't particularly short and I don't go out out of my way to flash anyone but if there's occasionally a glimpse of (big) knickers if it's windy I'm really not bothered and I don't expect other people to voice their opinions on my clothes /activities.

My 6yo did an afters chook dance club. I was extremely surprised when she told me she had to wear shorts under her dress, I'm assuming her paw patrol knickers were offensive

I bought her one of those gingham playsuit instead. It's a barmy rule.

There was a rule like this in my school in the 80s. My dad went mental and refused to buy them.
When my mum asked why not I remember him asking her who did the job of checking little girls knickers at the school.

School knickers used to be large, sturdy garments with elasticated legs. No chance of accidental over exposure. Mine were heavy duty material and a revolting shade of brown. They even had a pocket for a handkerchief!

Knickers and tight shorts all day - thrushtastic.

Thanks for the views! Yes she can wear trousers and she does. Just not everyday. And she may want to do headstand on a random day on which she is wearing a dress. Also I don't think it's that comfy doing gymnastic moves with trousers on... No shorts allowed as part of the uniform for girls.
She is not showing anyone anything but it may be the case that whilst doing certain things people may see her knickers. I can't see anything wrong with that. It's not the same with boys walking around with the pants down their bum all day long surely..

The cotton pants I buy for DD3 cover her perfectly adequately. No concerns here.

No rule at our school but it is a rule at a school where friends children attend and I think it's very very sad to make them feel self conscious at such a young age.
Who is it supposed to prevent from seeing the pants?
Because the whole class get changed for pe together in the same classroom. X

I’m not body shaming and it’s ridiculous posters are so quick to fling that word around to situations that have nothing to do with anything.

II don’t think it’s weird or abnormal for kids to show their underwear. But it’s something we as a society find rude to do as adults. Unless you preachy lot like to sit with your legs spread while wearing skirts while chatting to other adults and they’re too polite to tell you it’s fucking rude to make them stare at your undies. Same goes for men in loose shorts showing underwear.

We tolerate lots of things we consider to be impolite in children until we decide they’re old enough to know better and we start telling them off. This is one of them.

I was commenting on the OP’s daughter being told showing her underwear is considered rude. Not whether shorts should be mandatory.

I would not send her in wearing shorts but I would probably have a word about the handstands - that's not just a flash of underwear.

I do think it's a sad state of affairs though.

There was a thread about this a little while ago, and there was a very funny post about ‘where does it stop’ along the lines of ‘There was an old woman who swallowed a fly....’.

Pants to cover your bits
Shorts to cover your pants
Leggings to cover your shorts
Trousers to cover your leggings
Over trousers to cover your trousers.....

Pants cover your bits (well decent ones do!) it’s unnecessary to cover your pants just in case you fancy doing a cartwheel, at any age, let alone 6.

I think dresses are ridiculous clothing for gymnastic girls- completely impractical.
We spend a lot of time telling children about keeping private and whether we like it or not, showing knickers is always going to be a ‘thing’, but girls should be able to do whatever they like physically without feeling restricted or embarrassed.
If my dc’s school insisted on dresses for summer wear for girls I would be questioning that instead and parental opinion would be valued- go and complain.
If they had to wear a dress I would suggest shorts underneath myself.

Just go down the childish route and keep asking why when they tell you she has to wear shorts.

I'd make my DD wear shorts under a dress.

Small children are being told PANTS rule where the P is for privates are private. The rule doesn't then say "unless you are female playing in the playground in which case you should flash everyone with them as pants are tight fitting and leave very little to the imagination".

Why can’t they just wear shorts and bin those pointless dresses? DD hated them and just wore trousers throughout her school years.

Isn’t the pants rule that what is under your pants is private?

Aye it is, but pants don’t tend to cover much when cartwheeling or doing handstands/climbing stuff.

Oh I see the point! Perhaps sturdier pants needed.

Knickers are not what they once were. I was in a school assembly last week and was surprised how much was on display just from children in dresses sitting cross-legged on the floor. DD wears a skort now anyway at her request as it deters the skirt-lifter that school seem incapable of dealing with.

Sadly, behaviour AND knickers are not what they were.