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Trump puts kids in cages because he wants his wall. How low can he go? The authoritarian shitshow continues ...

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Gumpendorf · 19/06/2018 19:29

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ohmymimi · 20/06/2018 17:55

Ivanka said to me 'Daddy, daddy, you must do something for all those poor babies the Democrats are letting suffer like that. Please, Daddy.'

ohmymimi · 20/06/2018 18:02

@peterbakernyt
Trump preparing to issue an executive order as soon as today to end the separation of families at the border by indefinitely detaining parents and children together. ⁦**@maggieNYT⁩ ⁦*@shearm*⁩

@cmonealm
Replying to @peterbakernyt, @maggieNYT, and @shearm
He doesn't have to do it by executive order. This is just photo ops for him.

@cmonealm
Found out why. He could stop the policy with a phone call... But he couldn't do indefinite detainment with one. That's why it is an executive order, so he can just have these people in camps forever. I bet people still won't be able to apply for asylum.

mobile.twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/1009475068131512320

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/trump-immigration-children-executive-order.html#click=t.co/5gtO6SRSmP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/trump-immigration-children-executive-order.html#click=t.co/5gtO6SRSmP

ohmymimi · 20/06/2018 18:07

@peterbakernyt
Inside Trump hotel, with Spicer, Donald Jr., Evander Holyfield and donors greeting each other as fellow “great American patriots” while a boy blows out birthday cake candles and bites the head off a miniature Trump made of frosting. @katierogers @kenvogel '
mobile.twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/1009466952945766400

'Outside Trump Hotel, an Uproar. Inside, a Calm Sea of Conservative Cash.'
<a class="break-all" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/trump-donors-america-first.html#click=t.co/vGiZTqSrcL" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/trump-donors-america-first.html#click=t.co/vGiZTqSrcL

ohmymimi · 20/06/2018 18:13

@matthewamiller
If history is any guide, Zero Tolerance 2.0 will be like Travel Ban 2.0. Slightly improved bureaucratically, but still cruel, haphazard, and unjustified -- a response to a manufactured crisis used to whip up division and hatred.
mobile.twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/1009473246163619842

lionheart · 20/06/2018 18:40

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/washington-white-nationalist-donald-trump-republican-voter-james-allsup-identity-evropa-a8408766.html

'The Republican Party’s leadership in Washington state is scrambling to distance itself from James Allsup, a self-proclaimed “pro-European nationalist” who won an uncontested election in the local Republican primaries.

State law means Mr Allsup is already the certified winner of the election ending in August, since he went uncontested during the filing period to become a precinct committee officer (PCO) in Whitman County. If local officials have their way, however, the white nationalist — who participated in the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia and later had his Twitter account suspended during a far-right purge by the platform — won’t be seated when his term begins in December.'

Gumpendorf · 20/06/2018 18:41

The draft being prepared by DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen would "keep families together after they are detained crossing the border illegally" — and orders the Department of Defense "to help house the detained families."

Department of Defense...? twitter.com/AP/status/1009455113424068608

twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1009486321595928586

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Gumpendorf · 20/06/2018 18:47

Michael Cohen resigns as deputy finance chair of the RNC's Finance Committee, sources tell ABC News. abcn.ws/2tbm28A

twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1009491109351915520

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Gumpendorf · 20/06/2018 18:48

JUST IN: American Airlines has requested that the US federal government "immediately refrain from using American for the purpose of transporting children who have been separated from their families due to the current immigration policy." twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1009480155352444928/photo/1

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Lweji · 20/06/2018 18:50

Ahhhh

Trump's family separation policy is sending some Republicans over the edge

www.businessinsider.com/trumps-family-separation-policy-infuriates-some-republicans-2018-6

Gumpendorf · 20/06/2018 18:51

Common theme: A Trump supporter in Duluth, one of many waiting in a long line outside tonight’s rally location, just told me she has compassion for separated families but ultimately believes that the detainment center photos and videos are fake and photoshopped.

twitter.com/katierogers/status/1009489413188079616

I've heard a lot of this today. And an evangelist minister saying he disapproved but that Trump's presidency was approved by God, so he had to support him.

What a messed up world.

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Gumpendorf · 20/06/2018 18:54

ICE lied, told flight attendants the kids were a soccer team. They weren't. Now this flight attendant won't work when the US transports children away from their parents. "I might as well have been a collaborator on their transport." www.houstonchronicle.com/local/gray-matters/article/Flight-attendant-I-won-t-work-flights-that-13008372.php #EndFamilySeparation twitter.com/dabeard/status/1009478392562028545/photo/1

Trump puts kids in cages because he wants his wall.   How low can he go? The authoritarian shitshow continues ...
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NetofLemons · 20/06/2018 18:57

Jesus Christ. Children in cages separated from their parents. What? Who can stop this? What punishment will there be for Trump. How the fuck is this even possible.
I want to cry just reading the news report. They may not ever be reunited with their parents. Not to mention the utter trauma being visited on these poor kids at this very moment. Words completely fail me.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44545823

ohmymimi · 20/06/2018 19:00

There are dungeons at Windsor Castle. QE2 could offer the child snatcher a tour down there and forget where she left him. Grin

Gumpendorf · 20/06/2018 19:01

www.cnn.com/2018/06/19/politics/sessions-church-complaint/index.html

It seems Sessions' fellow churchgoers don't agree with his bible interpretations. Oh dear ...

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Gumpendorf · 20/06/2018 19:05

It is horrifying, Lemons. Trump can stop this and apparently he is about to, at least, amend his policy to stop family separation. There will likely be no retribution, unless the Democrats can win Congress at the mid term elections in November.

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ohmymimi · 20/06/2018 19:13

I'm sceptical about how genuinely disturbed some of these repugs are by the family separation policy. More likely it is dawning on them how bad it looks for them.
The Cult 45 base aren't moved . Anything that might disturb their absorbed reality has to be fake/manipulated.

ohmymimi · 20/06/2018 19:20

Someone thinks their time may be otherwise occupied:

“This important role requires the full time attention and dedication of each member. Given the ongoing Mueller and SDNY investigations, that simply is impossible for me to do,” he wrote.
And:
'Cohen also criticized the administration's policy of separating migrant children from their parents at the southern border, the first time he’s distanced himself from the president.

"As the son of a Polish holocaust survivor, the images and sounds of this family separation policy is heart wrenching,” Cohen wrote. “While I strongly support measures that will secure our porous borders, children should never be used as bargaining chips." B
abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-cohen-resigns-rnc-committee-post/story?id=56033406

ohmymimi · 20/06/2018 19:26

@chrislhayes
'For all the talk from the WH about immigrant criminals, the practical effect of the new policy is to radically shift public resources from prosecuting people with criminal records to prosecuting desperate people with no record seeking refuge.'

'Before this policy roughly 90% of prosecutions in McAllen federal court were of detained immigrants with criminal records. Since the new policy it’s flipped!

90% of those being prosecuted have no record and are facing misdemeanor charges for first time entry.'

mobile.twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1009483975713345538

ohmymimi · 20/06/2018 19:29

@jaketapper
"Absolutely he blinked," GOP @RepMikeCoffman tells @wolfblitzer of POTUS reversing his position on child separations
mobile.twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1009487731024678912

ohmymimi · 20/06/2018 19:38

From that Intercept piece:

'Hastings could not provide statistics on the number of children under 5 who his agency has separated from their parents.'

'Wagner had no numbers to provide regarding families who have been reunited, post-prosecution, under the administration’s new program.'

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