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Trump puts kids in cages because he wants his wall. How low can he go? The authoritarian shitshow continues ...

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Gumpendorf · 19/06/2018 19:29

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AcrossthePond55 · 30/06/2018 23:36

From today's protest

Trump puts kids in cages because he wants his wall.   How low can he go? The authoritarian shitshow continues ...
lionheart · 01/07/2018 01:16

So heartening to see all the marchers today, Across.

www.politicususa.com/2018/06/30/trump-says-he-is-not-seeking-new-chief-of-staff-but-things-happen.html

PerkingFaintly · 01/07/2018 06:33

That was a good article, ohmymimi.

How to Hold On to Hope
slate.com/technology/2018/06/a-trauma-therapist-explains-how-to-cope-with-existential-despair.html
Hope can seem like a radical, even foolish, act. In times of despair, it can seem naive or dangerous to think that things may get better. But we fundamentally misunderstand hope if we take it to be an assertion that everything is going to work out in the end, sooner rather than later. To be hopeful is not to believe in the myth of continual human progress but to acknowledge that the future remains unwritten and we have the ability to play a part in its making.

Roussette · 01/07/2018 07:27

In awe of all the marches, thanks for the links and pictures Smile

ohmymimi · 01/07/2018 07:59

Major Garrett
@MajorCBS
Via @PressSec “King Salman affirmed that the Kingdom maintains a two million barrel per day spare capacity, which it will prudently use if and when necessary to ensure market balance and stability, and in coordination with its producer partners, to respond to any eventuality.”

@realDonaldTrump
Just spoke to King Salman of Saudi Arabia and explained to him that, because of the turmoil & disfunction in Iran and Venezuela, I am asking that Saudi Arabia increase oil production, maybe up to 2,000,000 barrels, to make up the difference...Prices to high! He has agreed!
2:49 am · 1 Jul 2018

mobile.twitter.com/MajorCBS/status/1013238183402844160

ohmymimi · 01/07/2018 08:07

Too true:

@JillDLawrence
Aren't these, like, two different things?

Major Garrett
@MajorCBS
Via @PressSec “King Salman affirmed that the Kingdom maintains a two million barrel per day spare capacity, which it will prudently use if and when necessary to ensure market balance and stability, and in coordination with its producer partners, to respond to any eventuality.”

mobile.twitter.com/JillDLawrence/status/1013238920350494720

ohmymimi · 01/07/2018 08:18

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/technology/2018/06/27/inside-facebook-twitters-secret-meetings-with-trump-aides-conservative-leaders-who-say-tech-is-biased/#click=t.co/rvS38QWRMI" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/technology/2018/06/27/inside-facebook-twitters-secret-meetings-with-trump-aides-conservative-leaders-who-say-tech-is-biased/#click=t.co/rvS38QWRMI

NetofLemons · 01/07/2018 09:13

So good to see the marches and anger at these policies across the US.

I feel (despite having had an encouraging letter from my MP about opposing the Trump visit) that neither of the main political parties here have responded adequately tbh. Based on my googling skills, delighted to be corrected if I have this wrong.

Like our politicians are all a bit too frightened of what’s going to happen after Brexit or they broadly agree with him in principle. Sad

Our PM May was very slow to condemn this- and she was objecting to the cages, but not very clearly apparently to the principle behind it. You have the foreign secretary Boris Johnson appearing to tacitly support by not really condemning.

You have Corbyn focusing only on the domestic and not condemning this at all PMQs and it being left to Thornberry to say the right thing and condemn it.

It’s a mess. Trump’s a child (and adult) torturer, racist, sexist. His policies should be opposed in the strongest possible terms and he should not get to enter this country. End of.

Why is having all the honours of a state visit suddenly being presented as the only way to get to talk to Trump about his abysmal policies? Has he really got us over a barrel that much, FFS?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-donald-trump-migrant-children-us-mexico-border-family-separation-uk-visit-a8407846.html

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-donald-trump-refuses-condemn-child-migrant-cages-us-border-mexico-a8417541.html

Honourable mention to Vince Cable of Lib Dems:

mobile.twitter.com/vincecable/status/1009482131138064384
Condemns Trump’s ‘concentration camps’ and also notes UK have separated families. This doesn’t appear to have gotten media coverage though.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/donald-trump-evil-racist-vince-cable-us-president-lib-dem-leader-britain-first-twitter-a8084981.html (In 2017)

ohmymimi · 01/07/2018 10:48

@RyanLizza
He didn’t even bother to delete the old one
mobile.twitter.com/RyanLizza/status/1013145221406842880

@realDonaldTrump
I never pushed the Republicans in the House to vote for the Immigration Bill, either GOODLATTE 1 or 2, because it could never have gotten enough Democrats as long as there is the 60 vote threshold. I released many prior to the vote knowing we need more Republicans to win in Nov.
8:17 pm · 30 Jun 2018

@realDonaldTrump
HOUSE REPUBLICANS SHOULD PASS THE STRONG BUT FAIR IMMIGRATION BILL, KNOWN AS GOODLATTE II, IN THEIR AFTERNOON VOTE TODAY, EVEN THOUGH THE DEMS WON’T LET IT PASS IN THE SENATE. PASSAGE WILL SHOW THAT WE WANT STRONG BORDERS & SECURITY WHILE THE DEMS WANT OPEN BORDERS = CRIME. WIN!
1:39 pm · 27 Jun 2018

TheClaws · 01/07/2018 11:40

ohmymimi I saw that (the lie about the Immigration Bill I mean). He lies about his lies ...

TheClaws · 01/07/2018 11:54

Judge Jeanine stokes up some hatred in white supremacists on Trump’s channel, probably while Trump is watching. This has received plenty of comment of Breitbart, of course, the place where pretend civil wars are brewed. It isn’t helpful discourse, however.

Fox News @FoxNews
10h10 hours ago
More
.@JudgeJeanine: "Right now in America, there are forces dug in, organized, and well-funded doing whatever is necessary to make socialism happen. Today's demonstrations are part of an ongoing step-by-step agenda to change our country at its very core."

ohmymimi · 01/07/2018 12:46

It's dangerous and irresponsible stuff from Fox daily now, Claws, and it has the WH in its grip:

'Fox News Once Gave Trump a Perch. Now It’s His Bullhorn.'

www.nytimes.com/2018/07/01/business/media/fox-news-
trump-bill-shine.html

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-hopkins-bill-shine-fox-trump_us_5b353fbae4b08c3a8f68bd92

PerkingFaintly · 01/07/2018 12:48

Can't read it all without a subscription but:

Donald Trump's aide held secret talks with Brexiteers over trade deal agreement
www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/06/30/trump-aide-secret-talks-brexiteers/
John Bolton, Mr Trump’s national security adviser, spent more than an hour discussing Brexit with members of the European Research Group of Conservative MPs in London last week.

Bolton was all keen on Brexit last year, too, when he was talking to Farage on LBC and urging Brexiteers to divide and conquer:
www.express.co.uk/news/uk/849249/John-Bolton-Nigel-Farage-EU-Brexit-Brussels

PerkingFaintly · 01/07/2018 12:51

Interestingly, Sputnik (Russian govt news agency, formerly The Voice of Russia) is one of the other top news sources on Google for this story. I assume that means Sputnik is really pushing it, or getting clicks from people who are.

ohmymimi · 01/07/2018 12:56

The almost total debasement of factual truth is what is so frightening, Claws. I don't use Cult45 in a lighthearted way, it is a reality. The lack of any holding to account for the avalanche of lying is truly cultish.

woman11017 · 01/07/2018 13:57

So good to see the marches and anger at these policies across the US
Yes it's inspiring, in amongst all this stuff. This link shows a very elderly and infirm gentleman protestor being arrested.

@MuslimIQ
ICE has now arrested a Jewish Rabbi for protesting Family separation & Migrant Concentration camps 😳😓
•This beautiful soul is Rabbi Waskow
•He was arrested protesting outside an ICE facility in Philadelphia
#EndFamilySeparation
twitter.com/MuslimIQ/status/1013201663887400961

ohmymimi · 01/07/2018 15:39

Blimey, I had quite another picture of a typical Fox junkie:

(My italics)
Michael M. Grynbaum
@grynbaum
Bill Shine, possibly Trump's next communications chief, was viewed inside Fox News as embodying the channel's typical viewer . My profile from 2016:
www.nytimes.com/2016/08/16/business/media/bill-shine-steps-out-from-behind-the-scenes-to-lead-fox-news.html

' ... embodying a typical Fox News viewer: an Irish-Catholic family man, son of a New York City police officer. His wife is the author of “Happy Housewives,” an ode to female empowerment through 1950s-style domesticity. (Sample advice: “Don’t Nag Him to Death.”)'

mobile.twitter.com/grynbaum/status/1012005496939835392

ohmymimi · 01/07/2018 15:41

Michael M. Grynbaum
@grynbaum
Winners in the Bill Shine-goes-to-Washington story:

@seanhannity, who is close family friends & golf buddies with Shine.

And @Scaramucci, who originally lobbied for Shine to join the White House about a year ago.

mobile.twitter.com/grynbaum/status/1012008053204553728

ohmymimi · 01/07/2018 15:55

'Meet the HHS officials who tweet like Trump'

'Several mid-level appointees ridicule the president’s critics even while representing the government and working alongside career employees.'

www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/06/29/health-officials-tweet-like-donald-trump-663026?__twitter_impression=true

ohmymimi · 01/07/2018 16:07

'Neighbors call police on 12-year-old mowing lawn' Angry

Mr. Reggie's Lawn Cutting Service has received a new lawnmower and new leaf blower from people in the community after neighbors called the police on him for cutting their grass. Smile

abcnews.go.com/amp/US/neighbors-call-police-12-year-mowing-lawn-increase/story?id=56267042&__twitter_impression=true

ohmymimi · 01/07/2018 16:10

It's viral:
@kylegriffin1
Eric Branstad, the son of the U.S. ambassador to China Terry Branstad, used his connections to Trump this week to drum up business for his public-relations firm, WSJ reports.
<a class="break-all" href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/son-of-u-s-envoy-to-china-used-trump-ties-to-lure-business-1530306803?redirect=amp#click=t.co/XCsVqU4j8h" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.wsj.com/articles/son-of-u-s-envoy-to-china-used-trump-ties-to-lure-business-1530306803?redirect=amp#click=t.co/XCsVqU4j8h
mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1013221899873030144

ohmymimi · 01/07/2018 16:25

'Is Trump really winning? The truth about the president's popularity
US voters remain deeply skeptical of political polling. But Trump’s approval rating so far has been ‘incredibly stable’ '
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/01/donald-trump-polls-popularity-approval-rating

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