Trump puts kids in cages because he wants his wall. How low can he go? The authoritarian shitshow continues ...

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"took children from their parents and placed them with 'acceptable' families? "

happened all over south & central America, too, especially in Argentina, during military dictatorships. Children of the disappeared or babies born to imprisoned women were handed to regime-approved infertile couples. (shudder)

lljkk I knew about the Desaparecidos in Argentina, but mostly through a coworker who was living in Argentina in the late 70's, many of her friends were Madres de Plaza de Mayo . But I didn't realize that they took the children of the Desaparecidos and gave them away! I was very young when we worked together (early 20s) and I just could not comprehend how the Desaparecidos could even happen. And so positive that it could never happen here! And yet, here we are!

It's just horrible and inhuman to use little children to terrify their parents into not seeking asylum. And even more terrible to take those children away and (potentially) not return them!

It's depressing to think that the stuff Trump does can be linked to the reprehensible acts of dictators of the past.

This looks interesting. Tonight 9pm BBC2

Reporting Trump's First Year: The Fourth Estate

Documentary following the staff of the New York Times and exploring the critical issues facing journalism in the wake of Donald Trump's presidency. The first episode examines the first three months of Trump's time in office, as the possibility of Russian interference in the election emerges and the media is condemned as an enemy of the people by the new president.

Thanks Bore, I'll set that up to record.

(Good grief, how old am I? I had to correct that from "tape"...)

Hah Perking! I can remember the days when if we wanted to watch something we had to stay in and watch it in real time

I'm trying to blot out the fact I still find it exciting and modern to record at all.

And as for watching on Catch Up! That's cheating!

I'm increasingly scared that the Repu'ns are not gonna get the bloody nose they deserve in November. The resistance is weakening. :(

www.teenvogue.com/story/immigrant-detention-facilities-inhumane-expensive-crowded

www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/ag-ferguson-washington-other-states-to-sue-trump-administration-over-zero-tolerance-immigration-policy/

'The lawsuit will be filed “imminently” and will challenge the constitutionality of the family separation policy and President Donald Trump's new executive order meant to replace it.'

I expect he was really quite helpful.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/rudy-giuliani-fbi-clinton-leaks_us_5b2918f9e4b05d6c16c7acca

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'Democrats, fix the laws. Don’t RESIST. We are doing a far better job than Bush and Obama, but we need strength and security at the Border! Cannot accept all of the people trying to break into our Country. Strong Borders, No Crime!'

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'We cannot allow all of these people to invade our Country. When somebody comes in, we must immediately, with no Judges or Court Cases, bring them back from where they came. Our system is a mockery to good immigration policy and Law and Order. Most children come without parents...'

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'....Our Immigration policy, laughed at all over the world, is very unfair to all of those people who have gone through the system legally and are waiting on line for years! Immigration must be based on merit - we need people who will help to Make America Great Again!'

He’s raving again. So full of spit it comes out both ends!

That should be SHIT!!

That made me think, Across - "Spitting Image" would have done him soooo well

lljkk You write: "I'm increasingly scared that the Repu'ns are not gonna get the bloody nose they deserve in November. The resistance is weakening."
You're not the first person I've seen saying this, what do you think is happening to the "Blue Wave", then? And what about the various "flips" there have been from red to blue in different elections throughout the country this year? I don't understand why there is this fear that the resistance is weakening, I think it is like Brexit, more and more people are becoming less and less accepting of the future as dictated by Trump or May and the resistance is growing. And I really hope I'm right!!!!

I hope you're right, too. Bolleaux.
I think we're becoming desensitised to the Trump administration's corruption, incompetence & lack of compassion. Trump & his people repeatedly does things that would have been clearcut

... enormous ethical violations
... perceived as direct assaults on the constitution
... lambasted for the sheer audacity of the evident corruption
... pursued by the Republican party as obvious violations of federal law if democratic president had done them; special counsel should have been appointed & reappointed repeatedly
... and more

Almost Nothing happens. Mostly, they get away with all this with impunity. CNN & MSNBC are still screaming "THIS IS NOT NORMAL" but I'm not sure anyone is listening, any more.

Without very strong feelings, the swing voters won't swing to get the Reds out.

I was under the impression that more people are screaming "this is not normal"? Or maybe it's just I'm living in an echo-chamber? But in the past couple of days, for example, haven't some well-respected, die-hard Republicans come out and said they will be voting Democrat in November as they cannot in all conscience support Trump and a party which lets him get away with all the evil things he is doing? The thing is, there seems to be no coherent leadership of the Democrats, but are they really just sitting back and letting it happen?
Are you in the States lljkk? Because if so, you are obviously more likely to have an understanding of what is going on "on the ground" than I am

Nope, I live in Britain. Thoroughly addicted to the soap opera that is modern US politics. Trump has new supporters sprouting up daily, as fast as he seems to lose them. It's become 'normal' to embrace his tactics & perspective.

I disliked Dubya. But to his credit, he tried hard to be a unifying president, actively reached out to hispanics, for instance. What a terrible low we are at, yet I think we'll go lower still.

www.esquire.com/uk/latest-news/a20069587/trump-protests-london-visit-july/

Not sure if this has been posted, but he's reached a new low.

www.cnbc.com/2018/06/22/trump-autographed-photos-of-dead-crime-victims-for-white-house-event.html

I'm in the US and I do think it getting hard to continuously scream and shout. But that doesn't mean we're not resisting, nor that we're getting apathetic. I think many of us feel 'wait for November'.

We may be getting used to the daily shit show, but that doesn't mean we're becoming desensitized to it.

I'm obsessing over my placard for the 13th. I've taken the day off. I hope that it being a working day won't curtail the numbers too much.

I think people will remember.