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Trump puts kids in cages because he wants his wall. How low can he go? The authoritarian shitshow continues ...

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Gumpendorf · 19/06/2018 19:29

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PerkingFaintly · 21/06/2018 16:49

Might do.

On the other hand, he got less than 50% of the vote even in 2016, when he benefitted from being new and shiny with no track record to be judged on (in politics, that is; he was already crap in business, in legal problems, and in behaviour to women).

He might have very enthusiastic support among his base, but can he get the rest to a) turn out and b) vote for him?

ohmymimi · 21/06/2018 16:49

Making the preps. for the kissing the ring ceremony (take that as you will Grin )

@JenniferJJacobs

'A US official now confirms Bolton’s going to Moscow.

National security aide @GMarquis45 says Bolton will meet with allies in London and Rome to discuss national security issues, and will go to Moscow to discuss a potential Trump/Putin meeting.

Bolton’s dates: June 25-27.'

mobile.twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1009807677143289856

Roussette · 21/06/2018 16:53

He's not going to like Time's new cover

Trump puts kids in cages because he wants his wall.   How low can he go? The authoritarian shitshow continues ...
Lweji · 21/06/2018 16:55

Not sure he understands it. It could be interpreted as him saving the child.

ohmymimi · 21/06/2018 17:07

Yes, but, Perking, the repugs now know about the success of micro targeting. And then there's potential for voter suppression, plus gerrymandering, plus cyber interference. Any sellable progress with NoKo. If the economy holds up. Plus there is T.'s utter ruthlessness when it comes to self-preservation. Makes me queasy and uneasy!

ohmymimi · 21/06/2018 17:14

@chrislhayes
'BREAKING: According to a source in federal court in McCallen, 17 people who were going to be charged with misdemeanor entry this morning are now not being charged because they are “heads of households” aka, came with kids.'
mobile.twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1009805079715700742
Texas Civil Rights Project
@TXCivilRights
🚨 The 17 people might not have gotten charged, but their children WERE ALREADY TAKEN from them. The kids were removed 2-3 days before the parents faced charges. We still need to reunite them.'
mobile.twitter.com/TXCivilRights/status/1009813333489446913

PerkingFaintly · 21/06/2018 17:17

Yes, voter suppression worries me. In the UK, too.

ohmymimi · 21/06/2018 17:19

No dinner and a night on the sofa for George:
@gtconway3d
A great article in the most recent issue of the Federalist Society Review: “High misdemeanors encompass breaches of the duties of loyalty, good faith, and care, and of the obligations...to follow instructions (including the law and Constitution)....” (link: fedsoc.org/commentary/publications/impeachment-the-constitution-s-fiduciary-meaning-of-high-misdemeanors) fedsoc.org/commentary/pub…

fedsoc.org/commentary/publications/impeachment-the-constitution-s-fiduciary-meaning-of-high-misdemeanors

Violetparis · 21/06/2018 17:24

Sky News is reporting that Melania Trump is visiting the Mexican border/camps. Not sure what this is supposed to achieve but shows Trump is worried about how this disgrace is playing out in the media.

Gumpendorf · 21/06/2018 17:28

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/melania-trump-visits-detention-center-in-texas/

Melania is visiting a non profit detention centre in Texas. everything carefully stage managed to restore reputations

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Violetparis · 21/06/2018 17:30

Yep, attempt at damage limitation.

Gumpendorf · 21/06/2018 17:31

www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2018/06/21/trump-administration-will-stop-prosecuting-migrant-parents-who-cross-the-border-illegally-with-children-official-says/

The zero tolerance policy is no more. We haven't heard from Sessions since the volte face, have we?

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Sleipnirthewonderhorse · 21/06/2018 17:34

I can't imagine why allies' leaders don't get on with Trump (if this ridiculous story is true.) And I can't imagine Trump behaving like this with a male head of state (unless, you know, they were black or something)

Donald Trump Threw Starburst Candies at Angela Merkel
During his controversial meeting with leaders of the G-7 less than two weeks ago, President Donald Trump allegedly threw two pieces of Starburst candies on the table in front of German Chancellor Angela Merkel, saying “Here, Angela. Don’t say I never give you anything.”

The exchange, described on CBS News by Eurasia Group President Ian Bremmer, sheds further light on the tense atmosphere depicted in the now famous photograph of the meeting, in which Trump appears with his arms crossed and a defiant scowl across his face.
Trump was sitting there with his arms crossed, clearly not liking the fact that they were ganging up on him. He eventually agreed and said OK he’ll sign it. And at that point, he stood up, put his hand in his pocket, his suit jacket pocket, and he took two starburst candies out, threw them on the table and said to Merkel, ‘Here, Angela. Don’t say I never give you anything,’” Bremmer described to CBS.
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/president-trump/donald-trump-threw-starburst-candies-at-angela-merkel/ar-AAyWTDk?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=iehp

ohmymimi · 21/06/2018 17:34

Maybe more of this will have consequences in the ballot box?

'A brand new South Carolina Volvo plant is already considering slashing jobs because of President Trump’s escalating trade wars.'

mobile.twitter.com/SRuhle/status/1009830366306283521?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

AcrossthePond55 · 21/06/2018 17:34

Watching the 'Melania Show'. Biggest pile of shit propaganda I've seen in a long time. Wonder what he promised her threatened her with to get her to do this PR stunt.

AcrossthePond55 · 21/06/2018 17:43

I hope so mimi. But it'll only happen if Scrotus' fans actually lose their jobs AND if they believe he's responsible if they do. They don't give a rat's arse if someone else loses their job. And if his spin-masters can find any reason to blame their own job loss on Dems they'll still worship him. And all they'll have to do is scream "Dem's fault" or "Blame Hillary" and they'll swallow it hook line and sinker.

It all comes down to the remark "I could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and people will still vote for me". No truer words were ever spoken. And similar words using the "Wilhelmstrasse" were probably thought in German in 1930-something. The only difference is that Hitler was smart enough not to say them out loud.

Roussette · 21/06/2018 18:14

If Melania is visiting somewhere in Texas as a show, she is just his puppet isn't she. Of course, we've all been calling for her to do something but is it just a photo op to bolster SCROTUS....

Oswin · 21/06/2018 18:37

You lot seem quite up to date, can you help. Someone i know keeps shouting on facebook that this has been going on since clinton and no one cared. Can anyone link me anything thats reputable that either confims or denys this.

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