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Continuing the discussion around instagram influencers and ethics

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bawbles · 17/06/2018 20:40

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CadyHeron · 13/07/2018 20:20

I'd be interested to know which ones are deemed heavily staged too.
You can easily snap natural pictures in minutes, say if they're playing with toys, or on the beach or whatever.
Pictures I've seen don't have children standing around and posing for the camera.

Fluffyrainbows · 13/07/2018 20:27

Sofia-numerous times you've commented you have no issue with children being monetised and used on accounts so I'm wondering why you still ask questions about this? Plenty of the photos have been staged and as you've been on numerous threads your well aware of all the comments where people have seen instamums/dad's taking photos and we all know from photographing our own kids that yes occasionally you catch that great snap but even on regular small accounts you may have 15/20 photos that you choose from, especially now in the digital age.
I can only assume you're seeing off another thread with distracting posts for arguments sake.

Sofialemon · 13/07/2018 20:50

@Furfugsache
How am I rehashing? You've moved? I just read through this afternoons posts and commented on what was said.

I'll agree that the actual ads and sponsored posts are mostly obviously staged. I don't agree the majority of general posts featuring kids (even if they are promoting something) are staged.

If you follow Allthatisthree on insta (or her blog) you'll have seen her excellent, staged photo's of herself and her daughters. She has been asked numerous times how long it takes to set up and she said the majority are pretty quick to set up and minutes to actually photograph.

HRHCatherinePrincessofWales · 13/07/2018 20:52

What about the toll it takes on the marriage? I’d hate to have to put on a perfect front all the time, even when DH and I are in the middle of a stand-off about the dishwasher being stacked incorrectly.

It just must be SO weird to live like that.

Do you think they whip off the Boden as soon as the money shot’s in the bag and just let it all hang out in joggers they’ve had since uni; eating wagon wheels and drinking cans of cider over a Dominos??

Sofialemon · 13/07/2018 20:57

That should have said moved on.

Should have also added if you look at the main Allthatishe account there are more complicated shots featuring the kids, they apparently enjoy taking part and are happy to do them. Do you all think Dominique's accounts are exploitative of her daughters?

CadyHeron · 13/07/2018 20:59

Not seen that allthatisshe account before.Those photos are great, they look brilliant fun to do! Smile

ARumDo · 13/07/2018 21:00

@Sofialemon - it is a very tried and tested Insta routine to name check potential business to establish future deals. I want my dc to understand that - does that trouble you?
I recently read an article about children on the internet which included this;
Some of the main concerns relate to identity theft (privacy risks), digital harvesting of kids' images on predator sites (cyber-safety risks), sharing personal information about your child that should remain private (psychosocial risks), and revealing embarrassing information that may be misappropriated by others (psychological risks)," researcher and author of 'Raising Your Child in a Digital World', Dr Kirsty Goodwin, recently wrote on her blog.

"It has been suggested that 50 percent of images shared on paedophile sites have been taken from parents' social media sites. We lose full control of where our kids' photos end up when we share them online."
Does this trouble you?

Furfugsache · 13/07/2018 21:03

I presume the post you're referring to in which MOD name checks various holiday companies is the latest one? She has stated they paid for the holiday themselves, her post recommends local shops and restaurants. She has answered the questions put to her re who she booked through etc. What is the problem with that?

I can't believe I am even bothering to explain what I meant by moved on as it should be blindingly obvious if you have read the thread, as you claimed to have done, but the point you referred to in your question was raised yesterday evening and discussed extensively and every one of your questions above were already answered in the 6 or so pages that followed.

Why bother re-hashing, unless you want to steer the conversation around to the topic you claim you want to avoid?

Sofialemon · 13/07/2018 21:04

@HRHCatherinePrincessofWales

How on earth would it take a toll on anyones marriage. Why would you have to put a perfect front on snd who for?

Most of the husbands aren't involved in the accounts other than going along on the free holidays and getting gifted stuff occasionally.

Sofialemon · 13/07/2018 21:07

@ARumDo

No, none of that troubles me at all.

ARumDo · 13/07/2018 21:10

Good - that means you are someone not troubled by such very basic standards of decency that I don't ever have to engage with you again.

CadyHeron · 13/07/2018 21:10

"It has been suggested that 50 percent of images shared on paedophile sites have been taken from parents' social media sites. We lose full control of where our kids' photos end up when we share them online."

Do you have any actual links to the article? It's easy for anyone to make up claims like that on the internet, sources would be good.
Concerning if true of course.

Sofialemon · 13/07/2018 21:11

@Furfugsache

MoD is so formulaic she really might be a bot! As predicted yesterday she has followed up her shameless, vulgar money-grabbing post with a saintly midwife of the people story. I think I could confidently write her Insta page through the summer as we watch her bravely and selflessly struggle from one money making venture to the next!

The above was from this afternoon and posts relating to it were ongoing after. I hadn't realised there was a cut after which previous posts can't be discussed.

Fluffyrainbows · 13/07/2018 21:12

And so your here to discuss what ethics? 🤔

Sofialemon · 13/07/2018 21:12

@ARumDo

I would hate to live my life worrying about the sort of shit you must.

ARumDo · 13/07/2018 21:13

@CadyHeron - here you go. Disputable, of course, but worrying nonetheless. www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2017/08/29/should-you-post-photos-of-your-child-on-social-media_a_23190070/

Fluffyrainbows · 13/07/2018 21:16

@sofialemon yet you waste so much time arguing with strangers about things you DONT care about. Everyone else here is concerned and has kids and that's why they give time to the matter. But you don't care, it doesn't bother you, monetising kids is fine, so why spend so much of your life arguing with people about things you don't find concerning.

CadyHeron · 13/07/2018 21:18

thanks @ARumDo.
It says suggested, so doesn't sound like a definite amount.
However,ANY getting into the hands of sickos is worrying, and it does raise an important point that you should be careful of how much identifying stuff you put out there.
Which is why I only post back shots on my Instagram account, and FB more relaxed with though as it'scompletely shut down and only people I know in real life on there.

Fluffyrainbows · 13/07/2018 21:19

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/tech/6696598/parents-sharing-photos-kids-social-media-paedophiles/amp/
An article from the sun 4th July 2018

Sofialemon · 13/07/2018 21:19

@ARumDo

Sofialemon* - it is a very tried and tested Insta routine to name check potential business to establish future deals. I want my dc to understand that - does that trouble you?

Even my youngest child understands that companies and products mentioned on social media is most likely some sort of promotion. I haven't particularly educated my children about this, it's pretty obvious. Why would you making sure your kids understand it bother me?

Sofialemon · 13/07/2018 21:21

@Fluffyrainbows

I have kids and obviously have a different viewpoint to the majority of you on here. I keep forgetting you can only post on here if you share the same opinion.

Fluffyrainbows · 13/07/2018 21:22

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/paedophile-websites-steal-half-their-photos-from-social-media-sites-like-facebook-a6673191.html%3famp

The independent 2015, states half the content on paedophile websites came from social media. It's really not hard to find info on this.

Fluffyrainbows · 13/07/2018 21:23

Not at all @sofialemon but you don't give a different viewpoint you just blanket 'no' and disagree. Nothing of substance.

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