Did you know this?! WTF perverse scary monkeys

[Tangled59]

Happy Saturday morning MN!
So last night (wild Friday night, woo!) I watched a documentary about monkeys. Here's what the narrator had to say About chimpanzees:
"From the age of 15, male chimpanzees begin a life devoted to terrorising and brutalising the females". Essentially female chimps appear to live in a state of continuous panic and terror. Narrator continued: "Other than humans, no other species is as cruel and violent to its fellow members".

It then switched to bonobos, a female-led society where they basically hump each other as a solution to everything (literally, a male was acting up so the matriarch chased him down and then peace-fucked him back into harmony).

But I can't stop thinking about the chimps! Isn't that quite depressing? I always thought gorillas were the scariest monkeys but watching the chimps lounge by the river, using tools to fish and practiscing mobbing made me think fucking hell - part of me would actually rather stumble upon a tiger than a group of chimps.

*So last night (wild Friday night, woo!) I watched a documentary about monkeys. Here's what the narrator had to say About chimpanzees:
"From the age of 15, male chimpanzees begin a life devoted to terrorising and brutalising the females". Essentially female chimps appear to live in a state of continuous panic and terror. Narrator continued: "Other than humans, no other species is as cruel and violent to its fellow members".

It then switched to bonobos, a female-led society where they basically hump each other as a solution to everything (literally, a male was acting up so the matriarch chased him down and then peace-fucked him back into harmony).

But I can't stop thinking about the chimps! Isn't that quite depressing? I always thought gorillas were the scariest monkeys but watching the chimps lounge by the river, using tools to fish and practiscing mobbing made me think fucking hell - part of me would actually rather stumble upon a tiger than a group of chimps.* I thought I was reading human history.

Female hyenas have a fake penis that they will retract when they choose the male they want to mate with.

@GetInMyNelly

How is it “fucking bullshit” to describe animals as humans - they aren’t human and we have to be careful about projecting our own thoughts and feelings onto wild animal behaviour, especially if it’s “the norm” for that animal.

Humans have a much higher cognitive function, and operate in a different way.

Hit send too soon - we don’t actually know what other species think or feel. It’s all guesswork.

Also I didn’t say they aren’t capable of barbarism- that wasn’t my point. It was all the descriptions etc which made me think - hang on, how do we know? It’s difficult to explain - but we describe animal feelings in a way which is akin to human feelings. But those feelings may not be quite the same as how we experience them.

“ALL SPECIES ARE CAPABLE OF BEING BARBARIC”

No. Only human animals can be barbaric.

Even when it appears barbaric, there's a real reason WHY and it has a purpose - regardless of if it makes sense to us or not.

Dolphins are pretty nasty shits too apparently can't stand them, they freak me out.

I love orangutans.

Although this thread has put me off a bit.

I think I'll stick with giraffes. They do t do anything awful, do they?

I LOVE giraffes!

Fed one monkey nuts from my mouth in the south west of France once many summers ago...

Giraffes can be dangerous & kill people too.

Have you ever watched 2 male giraffes fight over a female? It's brutal. Those long slender necks can do some damage.

Slightly off topic but until
I watched river monsters I had no idea fish liked that existed!

"Rapist" is anthropomorphising. It's not rape to them, it's survival. Those animals are only doing things that cause them to survive and if they didn't they'd be extinct. The only reason we can penalise this behaviour in humans is because of the intelligence of women and their ability to reproduce without male coercion but even that is something we only figured out a few thousand years ago.

I can’t bear anthropomorphism. Apart from anything else, it means that many of our domestic animals are really badly treated.

This has been such a fascinating thread!

I never said giraffes couldn't be dangerous did I? I still love them though - but I like sharks too.

What's important when entering into their domain is to utterly respect them at every moment. They are bigger, stronger and completely unpredictable and it's a fool who thinks that they 'know everything about [insert name of animal]'. People start pushing the envelope, pushing their luck and then you end up with what happened to Steve Irwin who sadly (for his wife and children) lost his life from disrespecting a stingray and harassing it so much it felt the need to shoot a barb which unfortunately went through his heart.

Agree Bertrand. Overfed, underdisciplined, underexercised - that's not love, that's pathetic human-serving indulgence. You shouldn't do that to people or to animals.

I'm really enjoying it too TheCriminal!

Check out youTube 'chimp makes love to frog'.
Had to bleach my eyes after some sicko (weird friend) showed me that!

God, no Cloud!!

6 pages and no-one has mentioned lions. Flat track gangs of bullies, the lot of them.

Also, zebras. I got chased by a zebra in Zambia at a posh hotel. People sipping sundowners on the terrace were treated to a benny hill like scene as I ran away. This may have clouded my view of them.

Spiders! Mate with their BF then eats him for breakfast. Fun with uncomplicated results.

We had a duck that was drowned while being gang raped - by her sons!
Seriously disturbing

That will put a different slant on how I view a proud mother duck leading her fluffy chicks around hoppinggreen.