Did you know this?! WTF perverse scary monkeys

[Tangled59]

Happy Saturday morning MN!
So last night (wild Friday night, woo!) I watched a documentary about monkeys. Here's what the narrator had to say About chimpanzees:
"From the age of 15, male chimpanzees begin a life devoted to terrorising and brutalising the females". Essentially female chimps appear to live in a state of continuous panic and terror. Narrator continued: "Other than humans, no other species is as cruel and violent to its fellow members".

It then switched to bonobos, a female-led society where they basically hump each other as a solution to everything (literally, a male was acting up so the matriarch chased him down and then peace-fucked him back into harmony).

But I can't stop thinking about the chimps! Isn't that quite depressing? I always thought gorillas were the scariest monkeys but watching the chimps lounge by the river, using tools to fish and practiscing mobbing made me think fucking hell - part of me would actually rather stumble upon a tiger than a group of chimps.

Wish is an interesting and challenging book by Peter Goldsworthy about a man who teaches sign language to a gorilla and ends up falling in love with her.

petergoldsworthy.com/wish/

what was that tv series about a man whose mother turned out to be a gorilla?

found it
www.imdb.com/title/tt0096584/

Gorillas in the mist is an excellent film, how horrible that gorilla paws were used as ashtrays at that time.

I once saw a clip of an Orangutan picking his nose and examining the contents.

At aJersey Zoo the Oranutan keeper told us they could pick locks and short electrics.

Some species of Dolphin are known to be horrible to each other, but I’ve also read others protect humans from sharks. Why do they bother I ask myself.

I thought I was the only one terrified of apes! I can’t watch anything with them in or even look at pictures of them.

I remember first born. Loved it!

This is fascinating reading and I've learned quite a bit just reading it!

And I think Platypuss May the one with the issues, just to think the way they have is very odd

Did anyone watch Chimera in 1991, a tv series. That freaked me out.

I bet it did, in a nice way or a nasty way?

Yep watched that too slutty, I seem to remember it being a bit scarier than first born but loved it

I find bonobos quite fascinating they fuck for any reason at all or rather no reason/purpose other than they want to.
Which is quite a human trait.

Gorilla's scared the life out of me at Edinburgh zoo, you go in doors and can see them all around and below you in their enclosure. When I went in they were all banging stuff, peeing everywhere uncontrollably and basically making a ruckous, I genuinely felt fear went back at the end of my visit and they were all lazing about chilled.

Oh yes... I remember Chimera. Didn't it have Charles Dance in it?

I think Charles Dance was in First Born

thenightsky no Charles Dance was in Firstborn.

I remember watching an episode of Chimera, six months pregnant, home alone during a horrendous thunderstorm, I didn't sleep well that night.

Chimps also eat their own shit

Firstborn was based on the novel Gor Saga by Maureen Duffy which I’ve got somewhere, might dig it out and read it again....

Not gibbons, they're arboreal. It will have been baboons.

Charles Dance, what a dickhead, Meryl Streep and Tracey Ullman hated his guts when they had to work with him on the film Plenty.

@bluntness100
They simply follow their instincts, be it hunger, sex, violence. There is no thought process behind it like a human.

If you believe that only humans have thought processes, that all nonhuman animals just blindly follow 'instinct', and that ascribing thought processes to animals is 'anthropomorphism', you don't know much about zoology.

Not a fan of Tracey Ullman, who cares pluttypuss,

I've just made two purchases based on recommendations on here - thanks!!!

@Believeitornot

Stop anthropomorphising these animals.

They’re not humans. It’s what they do....

The above is absolute fucking bullshit.

So animals can gang rape each other, beat and terrorise.....yet a human has an argument and they should be bloody lynched for it!

ALL SPECIES ARE CAPABLE OF BEING BARBARIC.

We are animals too.

I agree with you Gorgon.

I think with animals it's mostly driven by their species and what animal they are, instinct mainly and behaviours inherent and developed over vast periods of time - but to say animals don't experience joy for example is wrong (dolphins following a bow wave or leaping out of the sea), or enjoyment (a pet chicken being hugged by its owner and closing its eyes in rapture).

I bloody hate antropormorphisation of animals, it utterly grates on me and frustrates me hugely. Like people with their dogs calling them 'my babyyyy' or ascribing a state of permanent happiness to dolphins when it's abundantly clear (if for example you see film of them being slaughtered or captured in Taiji for the captive dolphin/dolphin meat trade) their faces look the exact same - er, they are NOT HUMAN and therefore animals making faces that look like 'laughing', generally aren't laughing (eg chimpanzees when they appear to smiling - despite obvious physical and functional similarities to our own facial structure, are in fact appeasement or fear faces, not happy ones).