Aibu to wonder how a nurse can get this wrong?

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Watching £100k drop on catch up.

I'm an ex nurse haven't practised for almost 2 decades but still remember the basics (I hope)

Answers:

Lacrimal
Parotid
Sebaceous

Q tears are produced from which gland in the body?

The only one she even recognised as a gland was sebaceous and that's what she put ALL their money on.

Nurses and ex-nurses can you answer this

A without googling
B knowing what the other glands do and where they are?

I knew it instantly and I'm quite shocked a currently practising, probably fairly recently qualified nurse didn't know this! Surely it's basic A&P?!

Not even my area of expertise.

Not a nurse but I knew it definitely wasn't either of the other 2 answers so I would have got that question right

My elderly mother was a nurse, quite a senior one, and in her frequent visits to hospital with my father she observes people rushing around, overflowing sharps bins, lost files, etc, and comments loudly that nobody seems to be properly managing wards. Headless chickens are referred to. Doesn’t matter how good a nurse you are if your work isn’t being coordinated as part of a whole.

There are exceptions, of course. Some wards immediately give you a sense of kindly order and purpose.

I remember a time before nurses had degrees. The NHS ran on foreign nurses then too. There were RGNs and I can't remember the other initials, but they had different (less?) training. Mum headed a dept in an outer London cottage hospital and we spent many of our school holidays helping feed patients, entertain those without visitors and making beds.

I was in my 20s I think when Nursing Degrees were being debated in Parliament. Many people said that this was what would happen.

I think it's a much more general malaise though, which has pervaded society.

My dd, 12, knows this as its basic biology...

Yep I knew it too even before I had any dealing with health.

OP I agree with your evaluation.
It’s scary how patients who don’t have someone to have their back can end up in awful situation.
MIL was in hospital for open heart surgery. They were ready to discharge her wo any physio or checking she could move around. FIL has mobility issues (obvious, he is walking with crutches!) but no one thought about checking she coud go up and down the stairs of her house and/or someone was there to help her. That is until I rang them and asked if they were sure she was ok to go back home....
If I hadn’t, she would have been back at home, unable to go upstairs, go the bathroom or to a bed. At least, there was a loo downstairs I suppose....

I hate that.the fact that people are almost preyed upon if they don't have a team of support behind them and are treated worse why?...because they no they can get away with it because no one will stand up to them?becasue its easier to do less and get away with it.?but how can people in that profession do this.just because there isn't a family member or support to bring them up on the lacking or wrong treatment?becasue more and more im seeing unless you have support on your side the treatments can be shocking.and its putting vunerable people in really rough situation

Nurse here, haven't been in the eye department in 30 years and know it's lacrimal-eye-tears

I must say I’m constantly shocked by how ignorant many nurses are even though they are supposedly better trained these days.

Not a nurse, but I knew lacrimal from the Latin. I also know sebaceous, but not parotid.

It’s fairly basic A&P.

Maybe the tv contestant went blank and panicked? You hear that fairly often from gameshow contestants, ‘if I was at home, i’d be screaming the answer at the telly’. Under the pressure of a tv studio, it isn’t quite so straightforward and the old monkey brain kicks in.

@Jux you mean ENs or Enrolled Nurses-these were the bedside nurses, RGNs focused on medications etc.
Sisters are stuck in the office dealing with off duty and complaints, they don't get to see the ward much.
Much research has suggested that degree educated nurses improve the patient outcome as they can assess more effectively.
The NHS is chronically underfunded. I know a 32 patient ward running on 3 staff nurses and one nursing assistant who is the only one taking every patient a wash bowl and to the toilet. The buzzers are constant. Students are keeping the wards going.

Not a nurse, but was able to deduce the right answer

I also knew it because of the Cambridge Latin Course

Did 2 years training decades ago, knew the purpose of all the glands mentioned

I'm not a nurse but speak French and Italian so knew the answer from basic knowledge of Latin.

Not a nurse, but a voracious reader and knew lachrymose.

To be fair, whenever I watch Million pound drop, Im shocked by the ignorance of some of the contestants.Someone the other day didn't know who Meghan Markle was.

Quite, mila, research shows that areas with higher proportions of degree trained nurses have significantly improved patient morbidity and mortality outcomes.

Re ‘the 90’s’. There have always been pressures on the NHS and on nursing as a profession, but we have seen enormous losses of inpatient beds and huge increases in demand due to increasing acuity, technological advances and an ageing population since then. Hospital bed numbers have HALVED in the past 30 years. It isn’t like it was in the 90’s. Nurses do more, for more people, with less, under more pressure. It is a fucking war zone.

Well, Kateandme, how ironic that you are on a thread bashing the standard of education of nurses but cannot even spell properly. Your accusation that vulnerable patients are preyed upon by nurses because they have no one to support them is truly shocking and worrying. Perhaps you could elaborate?

Recently qualified nurse, we were not taught any of the glands at all. Very little AP and almost zero pharmacology. Lots of sociology though. IMO the training was rubbish. I taught myself most things. I do also have a biology degree . I think I would have got the answer right but who knows under pressure.

Recently qualified nurse, we were not taught any of the glands at all. Very little AP and almost zero pharmacology.

Veterinary nurses get more training than that! And could answer that question easily.

I’m an “old nurse” and I trained as the last but one intake, before it became a degree training/qualification. I do remember, as a junior staff nurse, being incredulous at how little understanding the degree students had of the human body. They were not prepared.

Tbf graph, when I was in training our wards had 24 patients. On an early we would have a Sister, SEN, 2 third years, 2 second years, 2 first years and an auxiliary nurse. That’s 9 staff for 24 patients.

My last surgical ward I (RN) and 1 hca on an early for 16 patients. No comparison. It was hell,pure hell.

Not a nurse but have a basic grasp of languages. Goodness me that's poor!

I am not a nurse and didn't study much biology and know this.