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Aibu to wonder how a nurse can get this wrong?

157 replies

Graphista · 14/06/2018 18:37

Watching £100k drop on catch up.

I'm an ex nurse haven't practised for almost 2 decades but still remember the basics (I hope)

Answers:

Lacrimal
Parotid
Sebaceous

Q tears are produced from which gland in the body?

The only one she even recognised as a gland was sebaceous and that's what she put ALL their money on.

Nurses and ex-nurses can you answer this

A without googling
B knowing what the other glands do and where they are?

I knew it instantly and I'm quite shocked a currently practising, probably fairly recently qualified nurse didn't know this! Surely it's basic A&P?!

Not even my area of expertise.

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SluttyButty · 14/06/2018 20:35

I'm not a nurse or had any medical training whatsoever but I know the answer!

Winebottle · 14/06/2018 20:41

I'm not a nurse and didn't know that. I think you could quite easily give great care for 20 years without knowing that.

Miladamermalada · 14/06/2018 20:44

Lacrimal.
Lacrimas is Spanish for tears.
I got this as an A level biology question!!

Kitkatmonster · 14/06/2018 20:44

Don’t watch it. Nurse of 15 years. Don’t work in a clinical setting anymore. Yes I know the answer, and would have known without multiple choice.

AlexaAmbidextra · 14/06/2018 20:49

Graphista. Not being rude but obviously you and I are ‘old’ nurses. 😂. And I don’t care what anyone says, our training was far better in those far off days. The level of ignorance of some current day nurses astounds me. But hey, they have a degree so that’s ok. ☹️

Abra1de · 14/06/2018 20:52

If you know what lachrymose means this is easy. Or have studied Latin.

Or, er, have studied to be a nurse... Oh, that’s what she is! 😀

aliasjoey · 14/06/2018 20:53

I’m not medical or nursing, and I guessed it. Remembered that lachrymose means tearful (never made the connection with French ‘larmes’ before though!)

Sebaceous cyst is pretty common

Not sure about parotid - for some reason it makes me think of the neck (which would fit with saliva) and being strangled? Pressing on the parotid gland?

agedknees · 14/06/2018 20:58

Alexa - less of the old. Me and graph are in our prime, I tell you. Ok, maybe my knees are older than the rest of me.

daisypond · 14/06/2018 21:00

Yes, I didn't know parotid. I think I was thinking of carotid artery for that one. So I've looked it up - saliva. I'll remember that forever now!

Gregpenguin · 14/06/2018 21:05

Not a nurse would have guessed lacrimal as I use an eye ointment called lacrilube

Piggywaspushed · 14/06/2018 21:13

I haven't watched this episode yet but have watched every episode so far on catch up.. they asked that same question last week!! (and they got it wrong, too...)

Piggywaspushed · 14/06/2018 21:14

I was more shocked by the people yesterday who didn't know what molars were!

Then (very clever ) DH said he didn't either. Everything is apparently just teeth to him.

Baubletrouble43 · 14/06/2018 22:34

As a musician I would have guessed lacrimal as the lacrymosa is the sad bit of a requiem.

CautiousVisitor · 14/06/2018 23:20

I was at a new GP registration appointment and the HCP didn't know what I meant when I said I had a family history of anencephaly (this is mildly important as TTC and previous doc prescribed a stronger dose of folic acid accordingly!). Confused

NotARegularPenguin · 14/06/2018 23:23

I’m a midwife but did a&p with the nurses when I was a student.

Never heard of lacrimal. But know the other two so would have got it by deduction.

Graphista · 14/06/2018 23:54

Alexa - not old, I'm 46 - but old school I'd say.

Agedknees - with me it's my back is definitely about 90! Grin guess why?!

It was a diploma I had first then with further study made up into a degree so I do actually have a degree. But yes even since that training I think the quality of training has deteriorated.

NOT bashing nurses - but yes bashing poor training and recruitment parameters.

With ref to my friend that's now in a senior/mentoring role, recruitment is something she despairs of.

That women are being accepted for nurse training who don't have the aptitude or vocation - because it IS a vocation - or the compassion for patients.

I realise that this is partly due to a lack of applicants, which is highly likely to be largely due to the loss of the bursary, and appalling pay once qualified, frozen pay etc because let's be honest it's largely wc women who go into nursing.

Women who can't afford to take a risk and who desperately need supported financially to complete extremely demanding training to then go into an even more demanding job!

Instead my friend is finding that she is dealing with a significant minority who think that having a degree excuses them from the (literal sometimes) shitwork! That its beneath them!

They don't see or understand that actually to have a patient trust you to touch them when they're in pain, to see them undignified in appearance and behaviour, and yes trust you to wipe their bum because they can't! Is a privilege NOT an insult! It's that attitude that's being lost.

Regarding my relatives in all but the situation with the meals not being fed directly it was registered nurses.

In that case hca's were distributing the meals but NOT feeding the patients BUT they were acting as directed (or not) by registered nurses.

Drs and rn's would've contributed to their assessments of need and they should have put feeding instructions in place (my gran couldn't even manage solids because her dentures couldn't go in due to facial paralysis then a long term spasm from the stroke and yet she was being given to eat things like chips, roast chicken, broccoli - when she needed a soft diet request with supported and carefully monitored feeding, personally I'd have decided upon a soft cutlery order too (seriously don't get me started - she also went IN with healthy skin and was DISCHARGED with multiple bed sores. it was a fucking farce!)

Nurses have a bloody difficult job, if they're let down right at the beginning by shit training that makes it a damn

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Graphista · 14/06/2018 23:56

Apologies - should have said people being accepted into training etc as there are of course (though still a minority) of male nurses.

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PolkerrisBeach · 14/06/2018 23:57

I would know that and I have no medical training whatsoever.

Sebaceous is something to do with the skin. Don't know what parotid. Lacrimal sounds like "lagrima" - the spanish word for tears.

tomatosalt · 15/06/2018 00:26

Why didn’t you just state in your OP that you’d like an audience for your new nurse bashing?
I often work with nurses from the UK and the staffing sounds so atrocious that I’m not surprised no one had time to feed your relative. Blame the system responsible, not the individuals.
In my experience, my theoretical training was good (I knew the answer!) but the practical side of things was where it fell down. There was no proper clinical facilitation from the uni, you turned up for shift and were assigned to a RN for the day and it was pot luck as to how interested they were in facilitating any learning. Often they viewed you as just a ‘helper’ and would expect you to make beds, assist with showers, answer buzzers and take obs (automatic machines). All very important nursing skills but in my experience you need the exposure to wounds, complex IV medication set ups, the responsibility of your own patient load etc to develop further.
Now I am on the other side of this set up working in a hospital ward that will randomly assign me students and I see why many RN’s don’t bother with them. Simply, I do not have time. I have a job to do and taking time out with students to help them learn is very time consuming.

AlexaAmbidextra · 15/06/2018 00:38

Graphista. 46 eh? You’ll be comforted to know that makes me very old then. You’re just a spring chick in comparison. 😂

JoyTheUnicorn · 15/06/2018 00:43

Not a nurse, A level biology (which I failed) 24 years ago, and I knew.

Graphista · 15/06/2018 01:15

The system is responsible I've acknowledged and expanded on this, but there are some things that come down to a basic lack of compassion - leaving patients hungry is one of them, doesn't take a genius to know people need to eat and that if they're seriously incapacitated they need someone to feed them.

Yes I know there's problems with understaffing etc - but you know what? There was in the early 90's too! I'd have been absolutely bollocked if I'd allowed a stroke patient to go unfed!

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GinIsIn · 15/06/2018 01:22

Not a nurse. Lachrymosa is the lament bit in a requiem, and it means tearful.

melodybirds · 15/06/2018 01:33

Not a nurse and knew when I saw lacrimal to think of tears.

FindoGask · 15/06/2018 05:11

Not a nurse, knew it. I think I have pretty average general knowledge but by today's standards I'm frigging Brain of Britain.