WTF is happening in London?!

[AngeloMysterioso]

In the last few days alone, there’s been a stabbing outside Liverpool St station, two moped muggers punched a women to the ground for her handbag and phone, and Michael McIntyre was forced out of his car and had his watch taken off him by another pair who smashed his window in whilst his child was in the back!

Even where I live in a pretty boring zone 4 suburb two teenage boys were stabbed a few streets away last week.

I know it’s never been the safest of cities but it feels like it’s got so much worse in the last year or so. What the hell is happening?

Amazing how much opportunistic arseholery there is once people realise the chances of triggering a consequence are minimal.

Break down of the family.
No consequences for bad behaviour.
Massive immigration.
Less money to go round.
Temptation of drug dealing as a career.
Obscene housing costs.
Police cuts.
Not enough prisons,sentences not long enough.

Drugs. It all comes down to drugs and turf wars over those drugs and like previous posters have said the police cuts don't help and there's the Mayor of London who hasn't even addressed the problem even exists let alone dealt with it.

I agree that police cuts don’t help but that’s not the root cause. Mass inequality & lack of opportunity for deprived communities. No more youth clubs etc. I grew up in SW London & it’s more segregated now due to house prices & school catchments, lack of social mobility. Most of the crime/gangs is driven by drugs, likely used by a fair few who complain about the crime. I think we should retook at stop & search, yes it’s problematic but I’m not sure what other options we have at the monument.

moment!

Must be taught behaviour.

I think we should also have more of a police presence, either bobbies on the beat or PCSOs.

Unfortunately this is a worldwide snapshot. We could be talking about any city in any country.

Hot weather.
I'm I saw that given as a reason for an increase in violent crimes in a police show in the last few months.

I wish that people would stop blaming "cuts" and start looking at where resources are allocated. There seems to be plenty of police resources to investigate trans and racial slurs on twitter but no police presence on the streets - I know which crimes I would rather have them pursuing!

FWIW there were fewer police per capita in the 50s, but every village had a police officer and there was a lot less crime.

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Even without police cuts, you can’t have a street full of coppers. Stabbing are increasing, it’s a quick way to retaliate against an opposing gang member. However, you’ll hear more on slow news days. This is London every day. Lots of serious crime simply isn’t reported.

Not to mention Grenfell. Deprived, uneducated youths with little to do have seen first hand exactly how little authorities care for them.
Add the royal wedding, what are royals to people with no money, no hope and no future?

I taught in a PRU, not gonna lie i got out of that hell hole as quickly as I could and about a quatter of the PRU kids (11 to 16) already had their own kids. Kids that they had no means of raising but expect the best trainers etc for them. Only one way to get fine goods when you have no money, steal it.
Can't be without designer gear on Instagram can you?

I will aff to Shinesweet's post

There is nothing for children over the age of 12 to do except hang around and potentially get into trouble.

I think some of it is press attention. Suddenly stabbings are being reported in a way they weren't a while ago so it makes them feel more problematic.

Some of its the police attitude to crime. I have heard of plenty of people never getting burglaries investigated for example. It's obvious that mugging via moped might be seen as the next step if someone has got away with pettier crimes before.

Men not taking emotional or financial responsibility for the children they create.
Government for the capitalist pressure to make males macho, starting with designer labels, clothes, sports and toys.
Young men enjoying male Calvinism including violence and crime.

Chauvinist

Back when I started there were about 24 parading each shift to cover a certain area of central London. Due to mergers that area is 2-3 times the size and I've been told they parade eight people a shift now. Eight. Plus now they have to deal with their own reports and prisoners instead of passing them on to crime investigation or prisoner processing teams.

I was burgled in another city more than 15 yrs ago & the police didn’t do anything then.

To be fair the moped muggings have been going on for years. It was just not covered in the press because they were usually robbing Indian women for gold jewellery, and the press don't care about crimes against women or ethnic minority groups.

Massive increase in the population, possibly? Also much of the violence is linked to the vast illegal drug trade, which as someone wrote recently is caused by middle-class idiots buying cocaine and other substances.

Agree, more police are needed, but much of the drug trade is run by Albanians and others who should simply not be in the U.K, report in The Times.

Also the police’s time is tied up with preventing terror attacks

There were riots in London in 2011. I remember they were brought under control fairly quickly by threats that anyone found guilty of looting, violence etc, stood to lose their social housing. These youngsters have little to lose except housing. Many of the gang members live on large estates which become their local tribe. No one wants to be turned out of their home.

Maybe camilla batmanghelidh was achieving more than we thought after all.

I rang 999 a few months ago to tell the police there was someone in the house with a weapon and the police still didn't/weren't able to come out. They now say that was wrong which I'm glad about but was it a wrong decision or just juggling tiny amounts of resources and multiple calls?

Gap between rich and poor widening. Ostentatious wealth and real poverty. No sense of ownership or pride in the city from people that get moved around like pawns from one temp home to another. Grenfell, blatantly showing how little regard there is for poor people, while homes bought as investments by millionaires lie empty...

You can't compare policing 50 years ago to now.