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The slog of this authoritarian shitshow is grinding us all down. My inspiration has gone into hiding with Melania. Knock yourselves out! (Trump cont.)

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boatyardblues · 05/06/2018 21:57

Does what it says on the tin. 🤷‍♂️

Here’s the last thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3258057-I-Spy-with-My-Little-Eye-Something-Beginning-with-T-Traitorous-Treasonweasels-in-Trumptown-Trump-contd

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Quantumblue · 10/06/2018 03:53

Can't stop looking at that photo either. He is really playing to his lowest level of supporters. God help us all with the Singapore meeting.

Roussette · 10/06/2018 07:47

I cannot begin to imagine how the KimJong meeting is going to go. If he can wreak such havoc with G7, there is no hope. Apparently, meetings were hasitly rearranged, times changed, the whole thing was to try and engage with him - all to no avail - he has just called Trudeau very dishonest and weak. This is because Trudeau stood up to him. He can't stand that.

Putin is getting all he wished for, chaos in the western world.

Very worrying.

www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/10/g7-in-disarray-after-trump-rejects-communique-and-attacks-weak-trudeau

Minimammoth · 10/06/2018 07:54

I can’t seem to make a link with Sunday Times article by Niall Fergusen. Emperor Donald huh.

ohmymimi · 10/06/2018 08:21

' "While the work of the independent counsel is indeed important, it's just as important that we properly take into account the hardworking American taxpayers' dollars and where they go," Meadows said late Thursday night on the floor while debating his amendment.

Democratic Rep. Tim Ryan of Ohio, however, argued that the legislation wouldn't actually affect Mueller's probe because he's technically a "special" counsel rather than an "independent" counsel.

"Trying to muddy the waters by going after the integrity of the investigation is a classic tactic used by the people who feel threatened by an investigation because they know they've been caught," said Ryan.'
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/06/08/politics/house-mueller-investigation-spending/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

TheNorthWestPawsage · 10/06/2018 08:51

Late to the party but thanks for the new thread - Just got back from visiting DMIL and DFIL in US.

All DH's rels are pinning their hopes on Nov mid-terms. But the general sentiment of DH's family was "The US is f*cked!"

This week is going to be a corker isn't it?

New Randy Rainbow:
twitter.com/randyrainbow/status/1005188810945253377?s=21

boatyardblues · 10/06/2018 09:29

Thanks for the Sally Q speech. She’s great. I hope she runs for office.

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tenredthings · 10/06/2018 09:36

Trump's intentional attention seeking need to create chaos, disagreement and drama knows no bounds. If only they would reroute his private plane from Singapore and leave him in North Korea.

lionheart · 10/06/2018 10:02

I don't think she will, boatyard but I hope that when this shitstorm is over, someone will have the sense to invite her back to the DOJ where she obviously belongs.

They will need her even more by then. Sad

Gumpendorf · 10/06/2018 11:12

The Sally Q speech in juxtaposition with the move to dismantle the ACA via court challenges makes me scared about where next. You don't need Congress if you have appointed the judges who know zilch about the law

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/trump-administration-wont-defend-aca-in-cases-brought-by-gop-states/2018/06/07/92f56e86-6a9c-11e8-9e38-24e693b38637_story.html

On the competing Sunday Times and Observer stories. It's always been obvious that Putin used Brexit, but less clear who were his co conspirators. The influx of Russian money into the U.K. in recent years probably taints and traps most of the establishment. The Russians have put huge sums into the Tory party via fundraising efforts. See also GOP. Now as the evidence unfolds it's clear BanKs and co are being painted as the useful idiots.

The U.K. is as fucked as the US right now. And I would have no faith in a public enquiry being anything other than a whitewash. May has form here.

Most of us have lived through an unprecedented period of democratic, liberal stability. We are unprepared for the upheaval that's coming. Well, I am. 🤯😱

Chheerful thoughts on a Sunday morning. 😊

PerkingFaintly · 10/06/2018 11:12

As you say, lionheart, the Arron Banks/Russia stuff isn't really off topic.

If he does turn up before the DCMS committee, I'll have to spend another day struggling with the video feed... He's already in deep doodoo for DPA breaches, if Brittany Kaiser's testimony to the committee is to be believed.

data.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/committeeevidence.svc/evidencedocument/digital-culture-media-and-sport-committee/fake-news/oral/81592.html

Oral evidence: Fake News, HC 363
Tuesday 17 April 2018

Q1575 Jo Stevens: Okay, thank you. I know in your written evidence you mention the fact that there was a discussion, or something was talked about with Arron Banks, about the use of the Eldon and GoSkippy data. To quote from your written evidence: “Arron Banks said, ‘It’s my data’”, so he is using customer data from GoSkippy and Eldon Insurance for other purposes.

Brittany Kaiser: That is what I saw with my own eyes when I spent a day at the Bristol headquarters. I was brought there under the understanding that I was going to Leave.EU’s headquarters. It became very quickly obvious that this was actually an Eldon Insurance headquarters, which is also the parent company of GoSkippy—maybe that is one of their brands.

All the staff there were employed by an insurance company and almost none knew anything about political campaigning. A lot of what I said to them and what I presented to them was novel. They had never heard of any of these tactics. They had never participated in politics before and openly said, “I work for an insurance company, so—help!”

Q1576 Jo Stevens: So why were you going to see the people in the call centre? Were they going to be working on the Leave.EU campaign?

Brittany Kaiser: They were actively working on the Leave.EU campaign when I was there.

Q1577 Jo Stevens: And how many people were working in the call centre?

Brittany Kaiser: The call centre was about the size of this room—maybe a little bit smaller—with at least, probably, 20 active callers. They all had a computer and a headset, making calls that I assume were normally sales calls or calls for customer assistance or advice, and instead they were calling people to undertake a survey.

They were talking to those people about their interest in leaving the European Union, and issues around Brexit, and Leave or Remain. We were sitting with those individuals specifically because we said it was unlikely that the survey that they were undertaking was up to scratch with what we would need for modelling. So, we sat there to understand what data they were using, what surveys they were undertaking and how we could improve on that, so that that data could be used for nationwide modelling.

I was under the impression, by what they told me, that every single individual that they were pulling up to call was actually a lead or a current customer of Eldon Insurance or GoSkippy.

Q1578 Jo Stevens: And do you know for how long they’d been making those calls? I think you visited in November, didn’t you?

Brittany Kaiser: I believe I visited in November, yes; I would have to double-check that. But it would have been end of October/early November. And they had probably already been doing that for a month or two, because we started having these conversations with them in September.

Q1579 Jo Stevens: Right. And this was a full-time call centre?

Brittany Kaiser: Yes.

Q1580 Jo Stevens: With 20 people in it?

Brittany Kaiser: At least.

Gumpendorf · 10/06/2018 11:29

I have just come from Quebec, where Donald Trump didn’t want to be, to Singapore where he does. So what lies ahead? My blog on #TrumpKim #SingaporeSummit http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44429468

Media stakeouts at every corner in front of the St Regis Hotel in Singapore, where North Korea’s Kim Jong Un has already arrived. #TrumpKimSummit https://twitter.com/sasvoboda/status/1005745014390083584/photo/1

The star of a world wide show. Trump will be in his element. It's going to be nauseating watching him milking every minute and then holding out his little hands for his Peace Prize which will be bigger, better and more deserved than the one given to Obama

Roussette · 10/06/2018 11:36

I agree he is going to be nauseating and play it for every ounce of kudos he can

ohmymimi · 10/06/2018 12:10

John Bolton
@AmbJohnBolton
Just another #G7 where other countries expect America will always be their bank. The President made it clear today. No more. (photo by @RegSprecher)
(PS - does my moustache look big in this?)

mobile.twitter.com/AmbJohnBolton/status/1005584419304898566

Gumpendorf · 10/06/2018 12:30

If Trump loves the limelight & is an obsessive attention-seeker, why shouldn’t the media desist from reinforcing his negative behav eg post G7 summit tweets;if we all just ignored the negative & outrageous tweets&reinforce his positive actions,who knows!
twitter.com/ProfCaryCooper/status/1005772093668184065

Hmmmm... interesting thought. 😊

Gumpendorf · 10/06/2018 12:53

To our allies: bipartisan majorities of Americans remain pro-free trade, pro-globalization & supportive of alliances based on 70 years of shared values. Americans stand with you, even if our president doesn’t.

twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain/status/1005614491768360960

PerkingFaintly · 10/06/2018 13:21

Yep, Gumpendorf, I share your concern that Russian political donations may cloud UK actions on national security issues, across multiple parties.

Exactly as they are intended to.Angry

I won't be upset if someone like Banks ends up impaled on a gamekeeper's gibbet – as long as it's the first step to exposing and excoriating this across all parties.