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AIBU?

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'I'm pissed'

231 replies

MarthasGinYard · 05/06/2018 08:34

Aibu that this little saying that's crept in and dropped its 'off' gives me a mini rage

'Aibu to be pissed at dp'....

'I'm so pissed with Mil'....

'So pissed that dc won't eat their greens'....

It's OFF

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AsAProfessionalFekko · 05/06/2018 09:22

Pissed off - ok
Pissed as a fart - also ok
I’m pissed (off/at) - an incomplete thought

pencilSharpenerer · 05/06/2018 09:23

As a linguist I'm supposed to not get annoyed by changing languages and instead simply observe them.

However, reading AIBU does make my brains hurt. I've just finished marking stacks of Master's essays and genuinely worry about falling levels of literacy.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 05/06/2018 09:24

I had a very entertaining chat with a pissed American in a bar in Australia several years ago. She was both pissed and pissed off because her brother had pissed off while pissed and disappeared. Trying to explain to her that he was pissed while she too was pissed and failing to understand that our version of pissed meant drunk, while hers meant angry (bearing in mind that we too were pissed) was really laugh out loud funny for us.

Eventually she got the point that he was drunk and had gone somewhere else, but she couldn't get it out of her head that he was also angry about something because the word "pissed" was now stuck in her brain and wouldn't commute to meaning "drunk" at all.

It annoys me too because the two things mean different states in English (and Australian) and using the American meaning really really confuses the issue.

WonderTweek · 05/06/2018 09:26

I don’t mind “pissed” if it’s an American person saying it but I must admit that it sounds odd if a person speaking British English uses it. But it might be that that’s the way they’ve learnt to say it and just stick with it? It’s usually quite clear in context though so I’m not too bothered.

Haha. I used to say “I was sick” a lot when I moved to England when I meant that I was ill, which lead to some interesting conversations as people thought I had vomited and started stepping back from me. Grin

Twoo · 05/06/2018 09:27

I came to thread to give an handhold .... after reading thread title of ‘I’m pissed’, I thought you were very drunk Grin

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 05/06/2018 09:31

Pencil - when you see shit like this, you begin to realise that All Is Lost when it comes to SPaG. :(
www.laredoute.co.uk/ppdp/prod-350092638.aspx

MarthasGinYard · 05/06/2018 09:36

Twoo

How kind Grin

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SchnitzelVonKrumm · 05/06/2018 09:37

on mumsnet is using Americanisms on par with paedophilia As it should be.

MarthasGinYard · 05/06/2018 09:38

Quite

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ElMarineroBaila · 05/06/2018 09:39

Why does this bother people so much? If you look at etymology so many words come from other places; just because we've got an "established" language doesn't mean it can't evolve further.

MarthasGinYard · 05/06/2018 09:40

Don't know

Just does

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ShellyBoobs · 05/06/2018 09:46

YANBU, OP.

It goes with “Can I get a ” and speaking with a rising inflection, as if every statement is a question, in helping you to spot fuckwits.

ShinyShooney · 05/06/2018 09:47

Mac 'n' cheese is different to Macaroni Cheese.

Mac 'n' Cheese is made on the hob and Macaroni Cheese is more of a pasta bake.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 05/06/2018 09:48

"It goes with “Can I get a ” and speaking with a rising inflection, as if every statement is a question, in helping you to spot fuckwits."

Or, indeed, Australians. Were you meaning to be so xenophobic as to imply that all Australians are fuckwits?

UrgentScurryfunge · 05/06/2018 09:57

It is an irritating trend of speech because it throws confusion into the meaning which jars. It sounds incomplete. Seriously, the word "off" is hardly so onerous to continue using yet adds much more clarity to the context instead of wondering what combination of being drunk or angry or both that a person may be.

I was pissed off while driving when an idiot ignored a give way line then gesticulated that I was in the wrong when it was my right of way to continue. Driving while pissed off is perfectly legal. Driving while pissed is illegal. Big difference in meaning.

BettyBooJustDoinTheDoo · 05/06/2018 09:59

Gives me the rage too, it’s used a lot on here and whenever I see it I want to correct them, and as for all this English evolving nonsense, English does not need to evolve to using an American phrase when we have one that is fit for purpose already and particularly if it has a completely different meaning such as pissed vs pissed off, it’s never the other away around, Americans don’t change the way they say things to suit our language, I’m sure Americans don’t go round saying, mobile instead of cell because their language is evolving. Evolving is a poor excuse to use American expressions. I feel better now.

Snausage · 05/06/2018 10:00

GAH! YADEFINITELYNBU. It's like the erroneous "of" that Americans love so much:

"I've never eaten as tasty of a dish"
"He'd never attended as important of an event as that one"
"I'd never come across as clever a child as that one"

It makes me want to scream.

lottiegarbanzo · 05/06/2018 10:00

Bit early isn't it? Wink

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 05/06/2018 10:03

"Will likely" AngryAngryAngry

pencilSharpenerer · 05/06/2018 10:06

@ThumbWitchesAbroad

Ouch!

@ElMarineroBaila

"Why does this bother people so much? If you look at etymology so many words come from other places; just because we've got an "established" language doesn't mean it can't evolve further."

Etymology tends to be about the evolution of specific words and less about grammatical changes. Every word comes from another place.

The issue many worry about is that nuances in our language are lost as language is simplified and that's demonstrably where we're headed. A more basic version of our wonderful mongrel language of French, German, Latin, Greek and others. Our grandparents had larger vocabularies and we able to use them in much more complex ways that current generations.

I have no issue with the evolving of language but evolving should lead to something better, not worse.

mishaf · 05/06/2018 10:07

how is this anything?! i'll tell you what i am reasonable about - potty training my dh to put the toilet seat down!!

Mintychoc1 · 05/06/2018 10:07

YANBU. Mumsnet is full of awful americanisms.
Pissed
Mac’n’cheese
Gotten

Hopefully someone who uses those words can explain why. Do they like the sound better? do they think Americans are more cool than us? I don’t understand it.

MereDintofPandiculation · 05/06/2018 10:08

just because we've got an "established" language doesn't mean it can't evolve further but why does it need to evolve towards the complicated and ugly? "Expiration date" rather than the functional and shorter "expiry date" is what has enraged me today.

pencilSharpenerer · 05/06/2018 10:12

@Mintychoc1

Is 'gotten' an Americanism?

" I don’t understand it."

Clearly.

PopGoesTheWeaz · 05/06/2018 10:13

I really do wish brits (by which I mean musnetters as it really doesn't seem to be an issue in the wider world) would get over this already. Yes, language evolves and yes some of the changes are brought about by exposure to American culture. But gosh, think of how rotten Britain has been purposefully trying to destroy languages around the world from Wales to Ireland to India and you're now complaining about the lack of a preposition. If that is something you have time to get worked up about then you may want to examine your life an priorities Hmm

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