I’m putting this out there. High heels.

[Undercoverbanana]

I think they are ugly and make women/girls look ridiculous. AIBU?

Heels are bad for health and cause accidents.

There is high social pressure on women to wear them to look “smart” or “dressed up” or “sexy”.

Cantankerous as much as you seem to doubly spectacularly miss the point?
My point is simple, if you don't agree with heels, because they're there to make us look all pretty for men, then the same goes for all the other things I mentioned.
At what point would you say a woman was making her own choices when it comes to appearance?

The OP is BU though, woman bashing!

Agree OP. They are modern day foot binding. Incredibly bad for your feet. I think at some point in history people will look back and be amazed that women bought and wore shoes like that.

The reason you feel a lack of support is because your Achilles is shortened by wearing heels.

And wearing flats has buggered my feet, too, because they give at the heel/base when I walk. It's not like flats are the be all and end all of healthy shoes. I'd be willing to bet that cheapo ballerinas are just as bad as 6" heels.

Cheapo ballerinas are not good for feet. Look at the shoes men wear. They are good for feet. Buy some decent quality shoes.

I think they look great, and I think people who wear them look really stylish.

Unfortunately they make me walk like I have a sanitary towel in upside down, and I’m already 5’8” so feel too tall in them. I tend to stick to vans.

Some shoes are horrible. Some are nice. Some are practical and horrible, some are non-practical and horrible. Some are practical and nice (etc etc)

And what shoes you think fall into the above category, is valid. Applicable to OP and everyone else. Not really a matter of right and wrong is it?

"The OP is BU though, woman bashing!"

A choice is not automatically a good choice because a woman makes it. It is perfectly OK for women to criticise the behaviour and choices of other women.

It is crazy that it is taken as normal that you have to learn how to walk in a kind of shoe - high heels, without falling over

Buy some decent quality shoes.

Love to. Can't find any. Hate shoes in general.

Tried Gabor, Ecco, Clarks, Rieker, Crocs (not the clogs) and all sorts. Almost all pinch, rub, blister, lack support or hurt in some way. Suspect I need to go custom.

I think they look nice but are uncomfortable and limiting to wear.

I love in flats and always have. I'm pretty tall anyway so don't need them for height.

They annoy me in action films where the woman is always wearing some ridiculous outfit completely unsuited for escaping.

To recap, you said that women shaving off all their body hair was nothing to do with a societal expectation for women to look younger/prepubescent and I asked you what other reason there was for the act of shaving all body hair off. Could you (or anyone else) answer that please?

What a daft stance.

I shave armpits because it makes anti-perspirant work better and I think under arm hair is ugly. I would like men to shave it too if they will be showing underarms as it is ugly on them too. I think some gymnasts do.

I shave leg hair because I think it looks ugly with bare legs or sheer tights. I don't bother when I wear opaque tights in winter.

This has zero, nada, zilch to do with trying to look younger or pre-pubescent.

Hair poking through tights looks ugly to me. Removing it takes nothing from how old I look.

BTW the flats I wear are all pretty healthy for feet. I can't do ballerinas or converse.

I actually love the way (some) high heels look. But I hate walking anywhere further than a few 100 yards in most of them. Wedges can be a compromise.
I went for a day/eve out recently, I wore flat boots, short skirt, nice blouse so dressed up sort of but I knew it would involve walking from place to place. Some friends of mine wore wedges/heels and jeans so casual but using the heel to add a bit of glam, I guess? I felt a bit 'short' and 'casual' but I was very grateful after an hour or so when their feet were killing them!

Lass

Actually that’s totally untrue. Hair doesn’t stop antiperspirant from working.

Actually hair wicks sweat from the skin and prevents bacteria build up on the surface of the skin which means no stink.

Lass

Do you think body hair ‘looks ugly’ on men?

Why so/not?

Don’t you think there is some societal reason why people think something totally natural is ‘ugly’ and seek to remove it from the body? Don’t you think it’s an incredibly coincidence that those ‘ugly’ things are a sign of puberty?

YABU to be derogatory about it- 'women look ridiculous' is a bit much, as though they are stupid for making the choice and look bad for doing so. What people wear and feel good in is up to them, if that's not the case for you so be it but no need to generalise so negatively IMO.
You wouldn't have BU to have said the pressure on women to wear them (if they feel that or have to wear them at work) is a very ugly part of society indeed, but a separate issue.
Personally I have given them up mostly these days, but do like to wear them for special occasions. Feel a bad sad at the damage to my feet I've probably done from days at work in them/trying to look taller/slimmer/more feminine though- flats and trainers are more comfortable and more liberating, thank god for them being back in fashion.

Actually hair wicks sweat from the skin and prevents bacteria build up on the surface of the skin which means no stink.

If that were true, no man would ever stink and that is patently not the case! Suspect washing and maybe hormones have more to do with it.

Why else do you think we grow hair in our armpits and groin?

I hate shoes too.
Men do have it easier on the shoe front.

Hairy should be sexy. Hairless is childlike naturally

Do blokes who are clean shaven on their faces look pre pubescent? Presumably they should all wear full beards to avoid looking childlike?

No, it’s incredibly difficult to do both those things in make up because your face sweats and feels generally awful because of the many layers of stuff all over it.

Key there being your face. I quite often go to a weights class straight after work and sometimes if I'm running late I don't get time to take my makeup off to make the start of the class. My face sweats with or without makeup because I'm working out. Feels no different with or without makeup. Better for the skin to take it off before a workout but really doesn't make any difference to my ability to have a good weights or kickboxing session, and my face doesn't feel awful.

Isn't it amazing how we're all different?

Why else do you think we grow hair in our armpits and groin?

Dunno, really, not an anthropologist or scientist. Vague notions of bacteria protection something or other. But claiming underarm hair prevents smells is just...incorrect.

Why do some men have back hair? What smells are your arm hairs or eyebrows preventing? Why is preventing stinkiness an evolutionary advantage in the first place? Wouldn't this wicking effect only work if you had your arms permanently raised?

Eyebrows are also to wick moisture away from the eyes

Arm hair is to keep you warm and cool (like leg hair)