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to be able to bemoan a bad day as a SAHM mum without the thread being hi-jacked by rampant feminists who think that "housewives" should be lined up and shot, either that or pitied and patronised!

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lucyellensmum · 20/05/2007 16:55

Thats just it really, there are days, im sure you know as a SAHM when you feel a bit shit about things. Just like any job i would imagine, i've certainly spent much time moaning about my jobs in the past, whether they have been ones i have enjoyed or endured. So here's the thing, i have been having a down couple of days, my pre-baby friends have moved on pretty much and i feel "out of it" when i return to an old job on a casual and part time basis and im completely in the dark about the goings on. I've lost my confidence and feel dowdy.I feel tired because i have not been able to shift a cold for the past, what feels like forever and DD isnt sleeping well. My relationship with my partner could be better as we are under financial strain, although that is getting better. So, i thought, i know, i'll post a rant on mumsnet and get it off my chest. In return i will get some empathy and a chivvy along and be told "yes lucyellens mum, we all have days like that - it will pass, because actually, it always does, it has today, i took DD to the park in a sulk because DP was finishing the patio and couldnt come with. But by the time the sweet little girl had said three new words (she has speech delay so this is a BIG deal) and had fun at the swings, "helped" me fetch some cakes for daddy in the shops, the sun was out again.

BUT, of course, what would happen is pretty predictable, I would probably be informed that it is totally my own fault for becoming a stepford wife and abandoning my career, and that probably didn't amount to much anyway as i am clearly brain dead, that must be so as i am proud to be a SAHM. That i lack confidence because really, i make no significant imput to my family or society as a whole and if i try to defend myself then i am obviously over defensive and "know" that my life is shit but am sticking my head in the sand.

Well thanks mumsnet (not everyone i hasten to add, most of you are lovely - just like me) for making me feel so good about myself! Not the parental solidarity i expected i can tell you. I know there are plenty of SAHMs out there who feel the same way i do, but we don't tend to say for fear of being pounced on or pronounced weak.

I am actually considering getting a part time job (one up from gutter scun i know, but hey at least its a step up) as my dd is ready for part time nursery so thats pretty scary really. As for whether i will continue to mumsnet, im not sure TBH as my confidence is in definate need of boosting after reading certain threads, which yes, i know i shouldnt read or get drawn into but i feel it is my right as a FEMINIST to defend my CHOICES.

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3andnomore · 20/05/2007 18:53

I'd been wondering if it was Xenia that had the go anyway...

PeachyChocolateEClair · 20/05/2007 18:57

That was my assumption

may ahve been wrong but its erm,

statistically likely that it was, I would say

franca70 · 20/05/2007 18:58

sorry you had a bad day lucy, glad you had a nice time at the park with your dd.
I'm more or less a sahm, actually I don't work for reasons that aren't just linked to the fact that I have children. This makes me an even easier target for some people who have strong beliefs in what women should do with their life. Have to say that I find it impossible to get offended or personally attacked, some debates have actually given me food for thought.
And also I'm not sure who gets the worst criticism, us sahm for not contributing to society (ha!) or working mothers often here described as selfish people, damaging their children for not spending what is deemed as enough time with them.

sniff · 20/05/2007 19:06

I am a SAHM mom have been for 6 years, I am not brain dead and I think I do make a input into society I am a BF councellor and I work with teenage parents all on volunteer basis, just because I choose to look after my own children does not make me a second class citizen or mean I have no benefit, nor does it mean I dont moan because I do we all have off days

Rantmum · 20/05/2007 19:07

Don't worry lucyellensmum, there are plenty people here on MN who are not so narrow minded. My DH (who loves his job and would never give it up) comes home at least once a week and moans about the crap day he has had. I don't tend to respond "well, dear, that is all your own bloody fault because you decided to become a materialistic businessman in a cut-throat world" .

We all have bad days no matter what we choose and us SAHM's are allowed to moan as much as the next person (the main difference being that we don't have colleague's with whom to bitch about it all with 9-5, so we rely more heavily on websites. My advice?

Ignore the ignorant (and misguided) pseudo-feminists on MN. They are not right because they are the loudest.

lucyellensmum · 20/05/2007 22:07

thanks for the support guys, its nice to see that actually, us mums can stick together (us parents, see, i quite like men i do, in fact i think they are bloody sexy phwoooaar). To be totally fair, i haven't had any of my threads hijacked but had the feeling if i started a "im having a shit day today and im a SAHM" thread it may well go down that route, as one of the other posters have done so on here (it may well have been that one that started my rant this morning).

Nightowl, i have too been a single parent (DD1 - 16) and was lucky enough to meet DP when she was just two. I was on benefits too, was glad to come off of them, as i am sure you were, respect to you for that

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lucyellensmum · 20/05/2007 22:10

oh and the one good thing about waking up in a shitty mood, having waterworks and taking oneself (and dd) off on a walk to the swings is - it can only get better, and it did AND I have a nice new patio that looks like it has been there for years because my DP is so alarmingly good with his hands .

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Twiglett · 20/05/2007 22:15

I'm a rampant feminist and a SAHM

and actually I don't go round trying to chew my own arse off because feminism is about having the right to choose

we all have crap days .. I undersand what you mean

Elasticwoman · 20/05/2007 22:17

HonoriaGlossop your name makes me smile.

I made some bread last week. From scratch, without a breadmaker. Can I have some SAHM brownie points please? DD2 turned her nose up at it, but a good SAHM takes these setbacks on the chin doesn't she?

HonoriaGlossop · 20/05/2007 22:40

Glad to be of service Elasticwoman

Respect to you for the bread.

Elasticwoman · 20/05/2007 22:49

Sniff you are a saint. The patron saint of thankless tasks, that's you.

shhhh · 20/05/2007 22:57

Im a sahm and also have days exactly like you do...our 2nd child was born 14 weeks ago and dh has been off work for that time due to being inbetween contracts..He can't wait to get back into work and tells me many times a day how he hates being with the kids full time and can't understand why I do it...I do it because I love it and its my job, just like he does his job iykwim.
I choose to be a sahm BUT that doesn't mean that I choose to have down days etc.

TBH those that have a good at you or other sahm when they have down days are just jealous imo.

Keep up the hard work..I agree with lilmamma's post btw..I think I work harder than some wohm's.

moondog · 20/05/2007 22:58

Definitely harder to be at home all day.
No doubt about it.

sallyheartshapedstrawberry · 20/05/2007 23:11

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Twinklemegan · 20/05/2007 23:11

I've not read the whole thread but I'm now a WOHM (not really out of choice) and IME being a SAHM is infinitely more difficult. Mind you I'm lucky that DH is a SAHD - although I still do all the cooking and shopping.

moondog · 20/05/2007 23:13

My life is considerably easier now am a f/t working mother than it was when sahm,despite dh being away and having a master's to do as well.

Twinklemegan · 20/05/2007 23:18

Blimey Moondog - how old is your LO(s)?

mozhe · 20/05/2007 23:23

Who are these misguided pseudo feminists Rantmum ? People who have different views ? AND like to discuss them ?

moondog · 21/05/2007 09:16

2 and 6 TM.
(I'm not saying it isn't hard because it is but at lewast I get time to think in peace in the day.)

LoveAngel · 21/05/2007 09:44

Hey lucyellensmums - rant away! Having been an SAHM, a
F/T working mum and now a P/T working mum I can confirm - you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. Some sour-faced person is always on hand to tell you what you're doing wrong...I say sod 'em!

p.s. The TRUE rampant feminists don't bash other womens' decisions / lifestyles, darlin'. Take it from a genuine RF!

xx

mozhe · 21/05/2007 10:31

People on mN have very different ideas as to what constitutes ' bashing' imo....

WednesdayAdams · 21/05/2007 10:37

oh no that one again!

SueBaroo · 21/05/2007 11:46

I'm not a feminist, but get what you mean totally. I love being a sahm, but I do have bad days, just like I did when I was working FT with no kids at all. Bad days do not invalidate a life choice. I have bad days with my kids, doesn't mean I'm packing them off to Timbuktoo anytime soon.

lucyellensmum · 21/05/2007 14:18

twinklemegan, put your foot down, he wants to be a SAHD then he has to do the whole package! My DP is a star and does the shopping, i do the cooking cos DD clings to daddy like a limpet when he is around. We are talking about me returning to work now though, and DP being SAHD as i can earn more money, not sure i like that idea

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Eve · 21/05/2007 14:25

....agree with LoveAngel...damned if you do , damned if you don't.

The way I see life is that we have a choice to do what makes us happy! Thats feminisim, having the choice and we should celebrate the fact that we have the choice.