to refuse to drive DPs car?

[Pomegranate6]

DP has a meeting in London today. He's parked at ASDA and the meeting has gone on longer than expected. He's phoned me and asked me to drive his car to a different car park so he doesn't get a ticket.

I've said no. My reasons being:
a) I drive an automatic, have only been driving for a year and don't feel comfortable reverting back to manual after so long of not driving one
b) I'm not insured on his car so could end up in trouble for driving it if I did for some reason get pulled over. I work in law enforcement and would also likely lose my job.
c) his car is falling apart and it's likely it's going to conk out any day. Imagine it breaking down and me having to explain why I'm driving it with no license.

Apparently because I've said no, it's my fault he's likely going to get a ticket.

AIBU to refuse to drive his car and think that if he gets a ticket that's his problem?

If you are not insured then you can't drive it. He should not be asking you to in the first place.

YANBU, for any of the reasons you listed, but mostly the lack of insurance.

100% his fault if he gets a ticket for not allowing for any overrun. Can't believe he would ask you to drive it if you are not insured. The other issues are maybe grey areas but it's his car and his responsibility at the end of the day. The ticket will probably be around £50? Not worth risking your livelihood.

The parking ticket penalty will be less in both financial and practical terms than a driving without insurance conviction. Leave tnthe car where it is.

What angelopal said

Yanbu if you have no insurance. His car, his responsibility.

If you're not insured don't drive it (but do you imagine anyone would ask to see your license if you broke down, and if you don;t have a drivers license what are you talking about anyway?)

Your DP is an unreasonable twat. Feel free to tell him so from me.

If your not insured then don’t risk getting behind the wheel

If you aren't insured you simply cant.

There's no more that should need to be said about the matter.

He should just speak up and say he needs to move his car.

@MiggeldyHiggins not sure if it's just me being dim in my annoyed state but don't really understand your question?

He really almost had me convinced for a second that I was the one in the wrong here! Funny how people are good at that.

Yanbu at all.

No insurance, just imagine (as you say) you get stopped, or even worse this be the one time you have an accident and injure somebody?

Convictions, job loss, fines, car loss and prison.

You are absolutely right, his fault, he has to sort and the money a fine will cost is nothing compared to other possible outcomes.

Also if you’ve only had your licence 1 year, you are still on probabtion which means if you get 6 points and then get even just one more point on top, you lose your licence and you start from scratch (apply for provisional, theory test, practical test and apply for EXTENDED driving test, which also costs more than standard)

Imagine it breaking down and me having to explain why I'm driving it with no license

Thats what you said. Why don't you have a license, and why would anyone ask to see it if you broke down anyway?

Definitely don't drive a car without insurance - it's wrong!

However, if you have a car you may find that it insures you to drive others' cars with their permission (3rd party cover only), or it may be that DP's insurance covers you, so check to be sure that you really are uninsured. That said, if you're not used to a manual, it's reasonable to say you don't want to drive it without practice.

No insurance, no driving
(But have you checked if your own car insurance police covers you? Mine allows me to drive any car with the permission of the owner as long as the car also has another policy on it)

I wouldn’t drive it no if you’re not used to a manual, but just to confirm if you have your own policy on your own car then you’re usually always insured to drive anyone else’s car third party (with their permission). It’s a pretty standard feature when you take out a policy.

Cross post with Dad and ten!

Your insurance might cover driving other cars (mine does, but it's only third party coverage) but you would need to check the policy to see. Myself and DP are named drivers on each other's policies anyway so we can drive each other's cars.

Another one here saying don't drive it without insurance. If you have an accident and are paralysed from the neck down for the rest of your life do you think he'll stick around to spoon feed you and change your incontinence pads?

@MiggeldyHiggins sorry, I meant no insurance. No idea, never broken down before but if it's somewhere dangerous then I presumed when traffic control came out they would potentially ask for your license.

but just to confirm if you have your own policy on your own car then you’re usually always insured to drive anyone else’s car third party (with their permission). It’s a pretty standard feature when you take out a policy

thats not true. Most budget policies do not have this.

sorry, I meant no insurance. No idea, never broken down before but if it's somewhere dangerous then I presumed when traffic control came out they would potentially ask for your license

Well they wouldn't, but if you have a license, why would that be a problem? You're still not making sense.

Are t you only allowed to drive an automatic if you passed your test in one? If so you're not allowed to drive his manual even before you get to the insurance part.

Apparently because I've said no, it's my fault he's likely going to get a ticket.

As others have suggested this is unfair. You've said no for valid reasons. Why can't he excuse himself from the meeting and move the car? presumably he'll have valid reasons too (important client or whatever), so it's just as much his fault if he gets a ticket.