To think Mumsnet doesn't hate Instagram influencers?

[jamoncrumpets]

And for prominent influencers who I will not name here for fear of them kicking off and getting the thread pulled to even hint that this might be the case is irresponsible on their part?

SO much gets discussed on MN every day. So much gets criticised. Social media influencers are a new and intriguing phenomenon - why wouldn't they be discussed here? For better or worse?

Many people have supported influencers for the way they earn money. That gets ignored. Many have politely criticised and pointed out ways it could be more ethical. This gets ignored. One or two have made comments that are personal or cross the line, these have been pounced on and discussed publicly.

The 'arguments' die down. People stop caring. Then prominent influencers go and start the whole thing up again.

Blaming MN is just lazy and irresponsible.

From what I've seen it's usually other posters who respond to any "nasty" posts on insta. I don't see why anyone should have to take crap on their account, business or not.

Xpost myother insta businesses are unique in the way they engage with their customer base but it can’t stay like this forever. That’s why it’s really interesting to see where mod goes from here as a kind of pioneer.

It wasn’t nasty though sofia it was a question.

Ok, so as @sofialemon mentioned the bitchy comments again it's worth acknowledging that there have been some below the belt comments. But there have been FAR more comments that are reasonable, asking valid questions and encouraging open discussion

sofia as this is someone with no account history they cannot be presumed to be anything.

EXACTLY!!!! They're nothing, they're just an eggy heady with zero engagement/posts which is what a lot of spam bots are too.
On there, and Twitter as well.
Twitter has all the eggs spreading putrid comments to people, seriously nasty stuff sometimes. (Not to IGer's, I just mean in general to people tobe nasty.)
It comes across as spam or trolling.

Alan was perfectly polite. Alan even included a non confrontational smiley emoji. I think a lot of bloggers could be more Alan in their responses.

@PeppaP

It was just a question, but from someone who clearly already has a reputation for being unpleasant. Why should anyone engage with someone like that?

Be more Alan

It's probably someone off here.

I haven’t seen anything else from ‘Alan’ but a simple question as such can be seen as unpleasant as it’s one that doesn’t want to be answered.

I haven’t seen anything else from ‘Alan’ but a simple question as such can be seen as unpleasant as it’s one that doesn’t want to be answered

The screenshot on here says that this Alan has been going round all the parenting accounts (I quote) "making mums feel like shit."
That hardly sounds like one harmless question about hey, shouldn't this be tagged as an ad", sounds like someone with constant digs and unpleasantness.

Yes but making them feel shit because they have to reflect on the question ‘Alan’ is asking and they don’t like what they see?
Is there a way to search comments from specific posters on IG? I’d like to see what else they have said.

@CadyHeron that all depends on how reliable your source is. In the past simply questioning whether something is an ad or not has got many non-troll-head people blocked and made them the recipient of abuse (sometimes from the influencers themselves). Nothing about that "going round making mums feel like shit" comment tells me Alan is definitely a troll. All it tells me is they don't like what he's asking

@CadyHeron

Yes, that's what I thought. I don't get why if someone thinks a post is an ad and hasn't been declared as such they don't just DM the poster then if they get no response report the post to the ASA.

If we have a enquiry at work, I don't ring round other companies to ask them if they have been difficult or not or spread gossip about them. I just respond to the enquiry. If these people are prepared to monetise they also need to professionalise.

@sofialemon - because you risk having your name and DM screenshotted and then you feature on Instastory telling all their followers how shit you've made them feel. Or at best you get ignored and blocked. I am speaking from experience here - more than once.

If all you have asked is a polite question why the need for it to be screen shot? Unless it was a question asking if a post should have been #ad when it blatantly wasn't.

If I had such an issue with non disclosure I would just report ant posts I felt were not correctly tagged to the ASA.

So your view, for the record, is that it's better to report to the ASA whenever there's any doubt than to politely ask a question on a public comment section under the relevant post, or to discuss on MN?

Just want to be clear.

That's to @sofialemon by the way

This was Alan's post on that Aveeno post, for anyone who didn't see it. Wish I could see more. Perhaps they've been deleted or sent via DM

Beautybox - if "he" is actually doing the rounds of parenting accounts "should this be marked as an ad?" and then commenting underneath to himself stuff like "reporting to ASA to make sure" etc "he" just makes himself look like a massive Mrs Mangel shows age curtain twitcher with a bit of knobhead'idness (it's a word now, lol) thrown in.
That's only the type of comment we're seeing on the screenshot. Our Alan Egg could be sending other stuff too, more unpleasant or intrusive feeling.
Can't think why he'd be seen as a trolly egg. Oh, wait...

@BeautyBox

If non disclosure bothered me so much then yes I would just report posts. However I would make sure I'd actually read the ASA guidelines so that I was very clear what constitutes an ad. I don't think some posters on these threads are.

That's a huge assumption Cady.
Alan said in the absence of clarification he was reporting to ASA. The two comments he made on the thread appear to be a day apart so he obviously received no response to his initial question. It's not like there's thousands of comments on that post.

Myothername - not a huge assumption to think "he's" going around lots of accounts as the screenshot itself said that he/it was well known to lots of mums as a nuisance account.

I agree @CadyHeron, he/she does come across as a bit of a nob.