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4evaalways · 26/05/2018 14:41

Hi I'm a mother of 5, my ex partner has stopped me from having contact with my three youngest children. This is destroying me and I honestly don't know what to do. Details below

In 2016 I had a mental breakdown which caused me to be unable to care for my children so instead of social services removing them from my care I placed my children in the care of their fathers. My eldest two with my ex husband and my youngest three with their dad my ex partner.

I was having regular contact with all my children but I was unable to have them overnight due to my living arrangements, but everyone knew and understood. Then in Feb of 2017 I started living with my new partner. Although my mental health was getting better I was now having other health problems which put me in hospital for nearly a month.
October 2017 I was diagnosed with a rare lung disease which is life limiting and also terminal.
Due to this condition I find it very difficult to not only look after myself but I also find the most easiest of tasks nearly impossible.

So down to my problem. Me ex partner (father to my three babies) has decided to stop me from seeing my children. He over the last few months has made some demands of which I cannot accommodate. Things were ok the beginning of this yeah when I was helping hi m and his new partner out with money, furniture etc, this wasn't just for my children it was for them too.

Just before Easter things started to get really bad, I was unable to help them as much financially and was having difficulty getting to my children (who he had moved 40 miles away from me the July before) and because they were now without a car they were demanding that my partner pick the children up and drop them off. My partner had no problems in doing this but it put a lot of strain on him as he works 6 day a week and around 12 hours a day.
I told my ex that we would have to sort something else out due to the strain it was not only putting on my ex but also on my health. My children are not the best behaved atm due to them being allowed to practically what they wanted for so long after moving in with their father.
That's when the demand for money started, I was informed that I should be paying maintenance for my children and therefore he wanted £40 off me. I have no problem whatsoever about helping my children with anything, but there was no way I was giving my ex partner money for my children when he wasn't intending to spend it on them.
It was also demanded that I have my children every other weekend from Friday until Sunday, which I would love to but purely and simply my health doesn't allow me to. After having my children for a few hours wears me out to the point I could actually sleep for a day trying to recover.
The arguments went back and forth over days via messages and telephone calls, my children (aged 7,6&4) were all in formed by their father that I wasn't seeing them until I did what he asked and my children were then on the phone to me questioning why I wasn't doing what their dad was asking. Now try telling 3 young children that I am poorly to the point of I'm dying is not something I want to do. So I explained it the best I could which then made me look to be the bad parent.
Eventually we came to an agreement that I would have my babies once a month from Friday until the Sunday, my ex would bring them to me and I would get them back. I also said I would buy my daughters gluten free food (of which they were not doing because 'they could not afford it')
Well this happened once at the beginning of May. My babies were then due to see me the weekend after the May bank holiday.
During one of my daily calls to my children my ex told me that the pair of shoes I had brought my daughter only two months before (because her father couldn't afford any) were broken. So I said well I'm sorry but you get their money so you can buy them.
I then received a message after tell me how out of order I was and that he has now decided I need to not only give him £40 a month and have my children every other weekend otherwise I was no lingering seeing them.
So here it goes again, he is doing it all over again. I'm on PIP because of my illness but nothing else as my partner works full time, I have tried explaining this to him but all he says is well you may not have to but should want to pay for your kids. Now as much as I would love to I just cannot afford it. My partner works but has to take time off when I really ill, such as the week before this all happened I was in hospital for a week and he had to have the week off work.
To my ex I'm being unreasonable because I wont give him the money he wants and I wont have my children.
I would love nothing more to be able to have my children more often. I would love not to be ill and have them back with me, but unfortunately we don't always get what we want.
My ex had previously told me that when I am towards the end he will not allow my children to see me, and if I want to see them I will have to make my way to them and take them out.
My children hear everything that goes on in their house, they know when me and their father are arguing and they know the ins and outs of whats going on because he or his new partner tells them, but they always make out that I'm the one who doesn't want to see them when that's not the case at all.#
My 6 year old daughter once said to me after I became too ill to have them overnight that 'I should be ashamed of myself' now you tell me what 6 year old would actually come out with that.
My ex doesn't work and has never been able to hold down a job for more than 6 month, his partner is on benefits so my children are now questioning me why my partner cant be here when I have them. Ive explained that its because he is working and they then ask well why is he working. They don't even know what it really means to see someone working because their dad has never really worked since they were born.
Not only does my ex receive Child Benefit and Child Tax Credits for my children, they also receive ESA full housing and council tax benefit and yet still cannot survive and provide everything they should for my children.
So in summery my ex partner has stopped me from seeing my children because I wont have them more than I'm capable of having them and because I wont give him an extra £40 ontop of the money I give him for the gluten free foods of which I'm paying for when I shouldn't have to.

I really need some help and advices as to what I can do. Both myself and my babies father have parental responsibility

Any advice will be gratefully received but please if you are going to criticise don't, I do enough of that to myself without having strangers doing it to
TIA x

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Sammyham · 26/05/2018 16:01

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4evaalways · 26/05/2018 16:01

I used to facetime my children but he has stopped that

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BeyondRedYNWA · 26/05/2018 16:02

Do the kids know how ill you are? Sorry if you already answered this - I couldn't see it?

Apart from anything else, it's really counterproductive for your ex to withhold contact when you have a terminal illness (whether people think he is reasonable to ask for more money from you or not). It will be him dealing with the fall out when you are gone.

Mummyoflittledragon · 26/05/2018 16:05

BabiesDontNeedDaddies
Op cannot move house. She’s far too ill. And she doesn’t need to pay maintenance. Can you fucking read?

OddS0ck · 26/05/2018 16:05

And the bitching and ignorance and unkindness keeps coming...

4evaalways · 26/05/2018 16:05

I have recently been told while I was in hospital that I can get help from the McMillan team (even tho its not cancer that I have) The Lung Foundation can give me little help other than emotional support as I said my condition is rare. I am under The Royal Brompton in London the best in the world and they are still learning about my condition

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TacoLover · 26/05/2018 16:06

Can you not get in a cab to go see them?

Roomba · 26/05/2018 16:06

I'm so sorry, OP. Second the suggestion of posting this in Legal Advice rather than AIBU.

I've been on MN since about 2005 and this is one of the most disheartening threads I;ve ever read on here. I know AIBU has always been a bit of a bunfight arena but come on! Slagging a dying woman off and telling her she needs to be giving non existent money to her ex and having her kids overnight when it isn't safe for them? Have these posters read and understood the OP's posts at all? God forbid they ever need help at a time like this...

SluttyButty · 26/05/2018 16:06

It is not the Op's new partners responsibility to pay maintenance.
Op you're on nil income so the cms will say you pay nothing so ignore the idiots telling you to pay!

BeyondRedYNWA · 26/05/2018 16:06

"I'd be interested to know what your terminal illness is that leaves you apparently incapable of doing it seems, anything"

I'm not terminally ill and I couldn't travel 40 miles on my own or look after my kids alone for prolonged periods. It's not really that hard to believe

4evaalways · 26/05/2018 16:08

My children know I'm poorly and spend a lot of time in hospital, but they don't know how bad I am, given that they are 4,6&7 I don't know how to or even if I should tell them. At my list stint in hospital I spoke to someone fro dying matters and she told me that I can get help from McMillan and have now put in a referral for help. What help they can give I don't know because I thought they were just their for people with cancer

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BeyondRedYNWA · 26/05/2018 16:09

Agree roomba, I've seen plenty of bun-fights in my years on mn, but some of the responses here are just jaw-dropping.

HelloBrass · 26/05/2018 16:11

Child maintenance has nothing to do with contact, & vice versa.

RP shouldn't be refusing contact on the basis of no maintenance, & NRP shouldn't be refusing maintenance until she sees the children.

The children have the right to maintain a good relationship with both their parents, & their best interests are the paramount consideration. Of course this has to take into account your health, OP, and what you can manage.

It sounds like you need proper advice & you may need to apply to the Court for a Child Arrangements Order. Good luck

4evaalways · 26/05/2018 16:11

Tbh I knew I was going to need legal advice and I tried to look for somewhere on here to see if there were and legal people on here that may offer some free advice. Ive only just joined this site and this is the first time ive ever spoken about whats going on with anyone other than who it actually concerns. I now know that I need a C100 (thank you for the advice) and I will get straight on it.

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TacoLover · 26/05/2018 16:12

If you took a taxi would he let you see them?

BeyondRedYNWA · 26/05/2018 16:12

Here...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/legal_matters

NeedsAsockamnesty · 26/05/2018 16:13

FWIW I’ve had a few Clients with terminal illness and the arrangements orders accomadated it

Haffdonga · 26/05/2018 16:14

You can get free legal advice from these people

rightsofwomen.org.uk/get-advice/family-law/

4evaalways · 26/05/2018 16:14

he has stopped me seeing them altogether because I wont give him another £40 a month on top of what I'm already giving him. Plus a taxi one way would cost nearly £100

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NeedsAsockamnesty · 26/05/2018 16:15

Taco

A taxi 80 miles? Expensive option

NeedsAsockamnesty · 26/05/2018 16:16

Op you also need a fee remission form

4evaalways · 26/05/2018 16:17

Idiopathic pulmonary hemosiderosis is a rare condition found primarily in children that causes recurrent blood collection within the lung's alveoli; this causes a disruption in the exchange of O2 and CO2.

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Roomba · 26/05/2018 16:18

You need to pay maintenance. 100% agree on that, £40 a month is not enough for 1 kid let alone 3.

Christ.

OP HAS ZERO INCOME AND CMS HAVE TOLD HER SHE DOES NOT HAVE TO PAY MAINTENANCE.

Any suggestions on how to magic up money out of nowhere when terminally ill? OP isn't even in receipt of sickness benefits (ESA), just PIP which is to cover the cost of care she needs due to being terminally ill! And she's been managing to do without so she can give £40 of that to her ex.

When it's the father who isn't paying maintenance and the mother isn't allowing access, everyone is very quick to quote 'Children are not Pay Per View, your children need a relationship with their father' aren't they? So what's different here? Surely it is even more pressing for OP to maintain a good relationship with her children now?

MN used to be a supportive place. Maybe we should just rename AIBU to 'All Pile On OP And Tell Them They're Shit'? or 'Critique OP After Not Reading Their Actual Post Properly'? Hmm

Roomba · 26/05/2018 16:19

Don't let this put you off posting here, OP. Post again in Legal Advice as there are some very knowledgeable posters who actually know what they are talking about there.

BeyondRedYNWA · 26/05/2018 16:27

Yes to roomba. Post in legal and there will be much fewer people who want to have a pile on.

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