Ethics regarding Instamums and huns

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Homeisthecalm here, I think it's suitable to start a new ethics thread.

Since clearly, the one from yesterday isn't really about ethics but Clemmie.

Thanks all,

Keep it as nice or as stingy as you like

I'll start off by saying things should be clearly marked 'ad' or 'gifted'

Although the term gifted gives me the rage

Isn't there a saying? There is no such thing as bad publicity.

I dunno. I think maybe I'm a little cynical, maybe I'm naive to think that people actually think before they speak.

There's another saying: 'birds of a feather flock together'. His followers seem a bit, erm, thick. Is this the demographic of Renault etc.?

@sparklefluff after being taken for a ride for quite a long time and finding out so much was hidden advertising (which was quite effective on some of us...) I personally am very cynical.

"What are you doing for others?" -Martin Luther King

Err influencing people to buy things they usually don't need. Or influencing people to do things.

I'm keen to not make this a MOFOD thing, I just can't help thinking that if I was in a similar situation, I would be very conscious and over critical of what I was posting, hence, I wouldn't be making these so called blunders and errors, or if I did, they would be few and far between and I would step in pretty quickly.

This new thread under his post reached about 500 comments before any form of intervention was done by SH.

He doesn't strike me as stupid, or thick. He has managed to get himself a book deal and make money on his family situation. It's one thing to receive gifts, but a very different one to publicise yourself for cash. That takes strategy, time and management.

If, and I say a big if, there was any form of planned controversy, it goes right back to how is that ethical. The timing couldn't be worse. Somehow though, he seems to get off lightly.

Wiley - oh yes without a doubt.

wily!

I don't use Instagram but seriously, why would anyone actively "follow" to read that rubbish? It's painfully badly written and desperately try-hard. Why are people so over-involved in this stuff? Just put your phones down and live your own lives with your own families. Salivating over these fame hungry knobends, whether positively or negatively just feeds what you define as the "problem". I really don't get it at all.

Agree agree! Just dipped in

@FlyingElbows same could be applied for mumsnet

Ha ha BoredandTired I was just thinking that - goes back to 'Is my neighbour a d*ck for parking in X/Y/Z position' thread

Does anyone follow Sam Avery - the Learner Parent? Another father of twins (boys) and much, much funnier than FOD but....... He has put a pic on Instagram of his kids on potties. I wonder if he will cop any flak for it?

@boredandtired your earlier post about your kids and FB really resonated with me. Years ago, before I was on FB, a friend posted pics from sports day and I was quite shocked that there was a picture of my daughter online, that was nothing to do with me. I asked her to remove it and she did. I don't put many pics of my kids on FB now I'm on there, I tend to use ones where their faces aren't clear, but the other night while I was reading the last thread I actually went back through my account and deleted a few more. I absolutely hate having my picture taken, and it made me realise that if I don't want pictures of me on line (or anywhere else for that matter) why would it be ok for me to post pics of the kids?

moonkissedlegs perhaps he's just attention seeking....

Book to promote? TV appearance? poor kids with these cr*ppy parents.

Sam Avery was plugging his appearance on Sky News with the potty pic.

🙋🏻‍♂️look at meeeeeeee!! They are all such an absolute bore.

@bobtailbunny it's so true isn't it. I hate photos of myself and am barely in any (probably need to chill out a bit!) but I hate it when people post pics and I'm in them. So it's definitely something to consider.

@boredandtired I've gone one further this morning, my original FB account I deactivated a few years ago, (then after about three years went back to FB with an email address only created for the purpose, and I don't use my proper surname), I logged back into and have asked to have it deleted which I figure is better than having it lying dormant.

As we’re talking ethics - the adverts that were popping up a few months back for the Tommee Tippee perfect prep machines really wound me up. I did report one to the ASA as I felt like it totally contravened the WHO code and was SO unethical. You can’t advertise formula for babies under 6 months but a so-called celeb can advertise them and tell you how wonderful it is for her 8 week old? It grinds my gears. I couldn’t by the way give a monkeys whether someone breastfeeds or not, it’s the damn influence adverts like that have on women making those decisions or struggling with breastfeeding.

I'll preface this with, I really love Esther Coren's stories, she's naturally witty and I started following her after the glowing recommendations on these threads.

However, her "Help! I've been trafficked!" commentary on new stuff in at ASOS has irritated me enough to post on here.

Not funny. Especially from her place of privilege.

Someone mentioned up thread said how easy it is to make ill judged comments because of the faux intimacy of talking into a phone, I totally agree.

@JellyBaby666 I complained to the ASA about a FB ad for a Perfect Prep machine too, it was clearly aimed at pregnant women and said on the picture something along the lines of “expecting an addition to the family” which may not technically be breaking the rules around advertising formula for babies under 6 months old but it’s certainly not in the spirit of the law.

Can someone who follows the big instaparents accounts please explain to me what you get out of following them? I’ve looked a few up and they’re all just contrived photos of other people’s kids, I really don’t get it.

I don’t follow anyone I don’t know personally but I do like to see pictures of friends and their kids to see how the kids are growing up, but I just don’t see the appeal of watching strangers lives.

The thing that gets me with the perfect prep machine is it contravenes all the safety guidelines. The water used is filtered not boiled (unless the user chooses to use previously boiled water, which most people don't realise) so each bottle is made with filtered tap water.
We could all just skip the perfect prep and use filtered water and save a lot of time and expense. If that was the safety guideline. But we are told to use previously boiled water to ensure it's safe when making formula.
I breastfed successfully, but have used formula in the past and can't beleive these machines are used by people who work with kids and in hospitals as every paediatrician I've met has said they shouldn't be used.

So the 'mumsnet massive' are going to be blamed for the ODs misfortunes eye roll . How convenient.

Have a look at yourselves - not declaring ads, bullying your followers, inflammatory posts without the ability or inclination to manage the comments, continuing to exploit your small children by showing them have tantrums/crying because they are tired etc. to make MONEY.