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Ethics regarding Instamums and huns

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BurberryIsSo2000 · 24/05/2018 17:14

Homeisthecalm here, I think it's suitable to start a new ethics thread.

Since clearly, the one from yesterday isn't really about ethics but Clemmie.

Thanks all,

Keep it as nice or as stingy as you like

I'll start off by saying things should be clearly marked 'ad' or 'gifted'

Although the term gifted gives me the rage

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Greengrassofwyoming · 25/05/2018 23:11

Semperldem the terminology he has used is offensive.

I can't comment on previous threads.

CadyHeron · 25/05/2018 23:14

I don't give a shit what they are or aren't saying on their instas. What's that got to do with ethics what it and the thread title professes to be about?

SemperIdem · 25/05/2018 23:17

Green

Well people can just carry on being offended then, I suppose.

Tansytaylor · 25/05/2018 23:17

These threads need to be stopped. Haven't you got better things to do than keep slating the same people? Honestly just leave them alone now. It's bordering on harassment of them

Atalune · 25/05/2018 23:24

Jeez oh, lay off FOD AND MOD. it’s boring, the issue is bigger and it makes the discussion on here look petty and personal.

But I agree with the comments made so far!

RunMummyRun68 · 25/05/2018 23:26

So do I atalune

Tansytaylor · 25/05/2018 23:27

It's awful. Just leave them alone. And that other poor woman you're obsessed with - mother pukka? Why should they keep coming on these threads full of spiteful vitriol and defending themselves? They must be mad

You clearly can't keep the discussion to Instagram ethics. MNHQ should ban these threads until you can

Threeizthemagicnumber · 25/05/2018 23:28

@tansytaylor Do you think Antisemitism, Transphobia, Racism, Threats of Violence & Hypocrisy are acceptable behaviours that should go unchallenged?

RunMummyRun68 · 25/05/2018 23:31

Oh tansy with regards @muthapukka you've not read the threads have you??

That is one instamum who has got it right and she is well liked here

So what you going on about?

Tansytaylor · 25/05/2018 23:31

My two messages on here are clear. Discuss the big topics all you like but this is thread after thread of personal attacks on a small band of people. You're weirdly obsessed. It's actually quite bizarre to read

That being the case, I'll hide this thread now. I usually do hide them but I couldn't believe yet another one in which you slag off MOD and FOD.

Greengrassofwyoming · 25/05/2018 23:32

CadyHeron

Ethics: moral principles that govern a person's behaviour or the conducting of an activity.

For example using potentially alienating/offensive language in a post to over 800,000 followers and an unlimited public audience.

RunMummyRun68 · 25/05/2018 23:33

Well, you know what? FOD puts himself out there and does stupid things.... maybe if he didn't do them he'd be forgotten about eh?

CadyHeron · 25/05/2018 23:35

Why are you blatantly attacking the same small circle of instagrammers? I barely use it personally but this has gone way way beyond a discussion about ethics and the using of children to promote something. It's thread after thread after thread, dressed up as concern for children or incorrect use of hashtags
Well bloody said, it's blatantly nothing to do with ethics and I've been saying that for ages.
There's a great discussion going on on the surface, which I'm interested in.Ethics, social media, children on public profiles etc.
It really does degenerate quickly though if no-one questions or has a different view, and soon slides into a free for all "did you see, did you see" or "OMG lolz so bad" type mindset.

Which kind of does detract from actual discussion.
Which, honestly, you can only have the same discussion and points over so many times without entering into broken record syndrome.

Greengrassofwyoming · 25/05/2018 23:36

Oh it's ok, he's edited it now without apology. As you were.

Boredandtired · 25/05/2018 23:36

@Tansytaylor given their jobs they've benefited hugely from the threads. But I was disappointed he made such a boob this evening and didn't correct it, as people will of course discuss, as such a big faux pas. It's bigger than his chez long.

Moonkissedlegs · 25/05/2018 23:37

I did do a sharp intake of breath when I read 'pre-op' and thought, 'ouch, people won't like that!'

He's changed it now to another equally unfunny set of words.

Boredandtired · 25/05/2018 23:44

All the 'pre-op' aside, it's just all way too staged for me. The 8-9pm 'humorous' posts of the kids which are set up and set to post even if he's not with them, are just all too boring now, so that's an unfollow from me. All the natural appeal is out the window.
I'm sure his wife will be back and they'll be the top instaparents again soon, but I'm going to stick with the new accounts followed and the few instamums who actually use their voice well.

Greengrassofwyoming · 25/05/2018 23:50

An unfollow from me too. He's either been living under a rock to make that remark, or it was intentional to get more attention over the weekend. I'm out.

CadyHeron · 25/05/2018 23:56

Whatever way you look at it the post was ill advised and whilst his intention was, I’m sure not to cause offence it will undoubtedly have done. The trans lobby is not one to get on the wrong side of.
Wow. Are you referring to the fact the kid's have got him dressing him in their dressing up box?! If so, how the actual fk do you translate that to the trans lobby?!
My God. Bit of fun!
Just shows people can take offence at absolutely anything nowadays.

Moderationineverything1 · 26/05/2018 00:00

Hi, I'm new here.. I find the ethics of this really interesting. My kids are older than the current instamums and remember Julie Myersons column in the guardian years ago about her children (anonymously) does anyone remember that? and the subsequent fallout?

Boredandtired · 26/05/2018 00:04

@cadyheron 'the kids have got him dressing up in their dressing up box'
Yeah right.
This is all completely staged down to the time it was posted. He probably wasn't even looking at it uploading or he wouldn't have taken over 2 hours to correct an slip. Given the time and effort he put in to planning this post he should've double checked his language use when referencing drag, it's a school boy error.
I think he has talent, but he needs a manager to oversee and hone his skills. And even though you'll call it whatever you want I find it sad that he constantly uses those kids as a photo op. It's not genuine any more.

CadyHeron · 26/05/2018 00:12

'the kids have got him dressing up in their dressing up box'
Yeah right.

Oh, FGS. So what if it was him or indeed them? You've blatantly missed all else I've said and wtaf does it have to do with the trans lobby?! It's bloody dress up!!

Moonkissedlegs · 26/05/2018 00:29

wtaf does it have to do with the trans lobby?! It's bloody dress up!!

Tbf, he was the one who used the words 'pre-op'.

Moderationineverything1 · 26/05/2018 00:30

Anyway, a simple google search on 'living with teenagers' will highlight how children's privacy (or lack of) can blow up in the parents face. I used to look forward to reading this column and when it abruptly stopped (one of the kids found out) I missed it.. This was 10 years ago.. I still don't know the children's names or what they look like and the guardian hasn't archived the columns on the internet out of respect for the children's privacy.

Moderationineverything1 · 26/05/2018 00:39

So my point is.. this has happened before, without faces, photos or names and the children involved haven't reacted well. As far as the 'ethics' go... it's (to me) clearly wrong

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