To wonder why both Duchesses are so thin?

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Talking about both the Duchess of Cambridge and the Duchess of Sussex. And ok, I know IABU, but I thought I'd namechange and put it out there to see if other posters agreed. Putting my tin hat on, as I know I'll get lots of criticism for my gossipy thread. Oh well!

Both Catherine and Meghan are beautiful women with naturally lovely figures. But they are both so so extremely thin! Right now Kate is less thin, I assume because of her recent pregnancy and new baby, but no doubt she'll bounce back to her usual skinniness soon.

Kate was nowhere this thin before getting engaged and married into the RF. Meghan has always been very slim, but is now thinner than ever and I bet she won't gain the weight back. I remember even Diana lost loads of weight as soon as she got engaged and married! And she stayed very thin from then onwards.

Why does it seem like extreme thinness is a prerequisite to be a royal wife?

Thisisthefirst step it has happened to me too, many times with the skinny comments, its just the way I am I have always been petite.
I do agree with all posters saying that we are so used to seeing overweight people it has become the norm.

Twittlebee I hate the "real women" comments for curvy women. Total bullshit.

There are some disgracefully cruel comments on here using words such as “scrawny” to describe the Duchesses. William and Harry seem both to be good men who love their partners as they are. Perhaps it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that not everyone wants “something to hold onto” or whatever weak justifications are used etc.

I have one simple set of criteria I use for these matters:

• Is the person healthy enough to do the activities they want to do? I.e Kate has done runs, bike rides etc, Meghan has been working 16 hour days on set. If either were truly anorexic, they would quickly have trouble doing these things.

• Is the person able to enjoy their life and food, and is the food enough to fuel their activities above?

Anything else is just a subjective judgement from women who may have their own agendas

Can you really not figure it out, OP?

They're the most scrutinised women in the world. Of course they're thin.

You're scrutinising then!!

I read once that within society the fattest people are rich men and poor women. The thinnest people are rich women and poor men. I think that's very true.

'In Western society' .

People should stop this comparing themselves to others. Its like they are constantly looking for justification that they are ok even if they are overweight. Stop looking at other people and be honest with yourself. You KNOW deep down if you are overweight.
Your body shape is your body shape but you need to eat healthily and be active. Accepting you are overweight is just not wanting to address your lifestyle habits.

I'm not a big royal watcher, but I agree that KM has become thinner over the years of being in the public eye. And I imagine it's for all the reasons others have discussed - hanging out in more fashiony, celeb circles, the best chefs, the best trainers, time to work out, pressures of looking good under scrutiny - rather than anything more sinister. I mean, it obviously isn't a good thing that women's bodies are scrutinised and stray fat and wobble or even too much muscle is punished by negative opinion. On the whole, it does seem that women generally get smaller the more famous they become - Jennifer Aniston started out quite curvy in early series of Friends, and got thinner and thinner. Even Daphne in Frasier got skinny as the show got more popular!

It does occasionally feel as if a greater diversity of body types is becoming permissible. Beyonce's got a bum you can park a bike in and she's not short of admirers, is she? My teenage sons and their mates are loudly appreciative of young women with 'back' or even 'double back' (big backsides and thighs, just to be clear!) But then you read some depressing article about an absolutely stunning woman like Jennifer Lawrence having liposuction to remove some minimal trace of fleshfold around her armpit, so that she looks smooth as a doll in an evening gown, and you just want to rip your own ears off at the madness of it all.

Why does everyone constantly cite “she has personal trainers, chefs, lots of sleep” etc?

Neither Duchess was overweight before they had access to these things

It’s a mindset; all the rest of that stuff helps, but it’s not the reason why.

I am the same. It's just how I am. Now I am 40 I do watch what junk I eat more carefully, but I don't say No that often.

They’re not thin! They’re perfectly normal and that pic at the start of the thread is clearly photoshopped. People are so used to seeing overweight people wandering around nobody seems to know what a healthy weight looks like anymore.

Maybe it's in there DNA or they work the ass's to stay slim. Meghan does a lot of yoga from what I have read and I think Kate has a personal trainer. That with a healthy diet is possibly the reason? 😀

They are amazing role models - not because of how they look but because of all the amazing charity work and campaigns that they do.

How can two women who are married to "princes" possibly be role models. Young girls cannot aspire to that. The "amazing charity work" they do is only in line of their royal status, the nature of their "work" is in accordance to royal protocol, not something that young girls could ever emulate, (unless they married into the RF).

There are plenty of role models in the world that young people can aspire to be, i can't think of any worse than a member of the royal family, an institution which has as its head an unelected and un democratic "queen", there purely through the accident of birth.

Was Kate fat pre-2011? I don't think so. She is extremely tiny now, that's true, but it's only a stone or so less than her fighting weight in the earlier days of dating William.

She used to be slim. Now she's skinny.

Meghan might be a good role model-we don't know yet.
Catherine most certainly isn't.

Nicole Richie 2008- too thin or normal people don’t know what a thin person looks like? She caused much discussion at the time

My size 18 friend was not looking for a bridal dress just something to wear to another friend’s wedding. And it’s not good customer service to tell someone they look fantastic in everything. My friend may be overweight but she’s not stupid and knew what she looked good in.

It was the real woman thing that really annoyed me and the rest of my friends, including those who need to lose weight by their own admission.

Being fat or thin does not make anyone morally superior to anyone else. No one should be body shamed but people should be realistic as to what is a healthy weight.

Lots of women live like Kate though. Lots of Mumsnetters. Without the wealth and royal trappings obviously, but lots of women meet their future husbands at university, work for a few years, get married, have babies, stay at home and raise them, support their husband's work, plan holidays and children's activities, shop, see friends, oversee staff of varying degrees, dabble in charity work.

It's not an unusual path really, royal trappings aside.

"Being fat or thin does not make anyone morally superior to anyone else"
Could have fooled me!

My post was in response to the role model discussion.

"Lots of women live like Kate though. Lots of Mumsnetters."

Of course. I wouldn't call us role models either.

The difference in those pictures of Nicole Ritchie is that she looks ill in the second one and very different from how she looked when she first became famous.

Kate and Meghan don't look ill, they look vibrant and healthy to me.

I agree OP. Meghan's legs are like toothpicks

So you can be too thin, if you look ill?

Poor Fergie was pilloried mercily by the media and referred to as the Duchess of Pork. Despite being a normal healthy weight at the time. The women in the Royal Family really cannot win.

Gosh. I can’t believe how judgemental people are. Don’t you have anything else to talk about?
How would you feel if people commented on your weight? Just because many of you may be in the overweight category doesn’t mean you have to slate others who are not. They are far from skeletal. Or does it make you feel better to slag other people off?

Always amazes me how fatter people are allowed to pass comments on fellow slimmer women and somehow that’s acceptable.

I have been teased for ‘throwing up food’ ‘eating salad’ ‘looking ill’ etc from my friends. It’s rude and not actually they funny. No way would I psss comments about their weight.

Strange really