Instamums in the Telegraph

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Is there a new thread about this?

I'm sorry I have no idea what's going in this thread now.

I'm just going to put it out there again.

If any of you are concerned about the use of kids on IG why is nobody mentioning fod at all? Who right now is running a Renault ad featuring the whole family, while some of you argue about the semantics of how the thread should be run

Agree sparkle Caroline Huron’s should know better. And no it will not damage her brand I guess but bit disappointing that she engaged at that level

Caroline Hirons is still sore from been called out on here months ago.

Caroline Hirons was like frigging God on here a few years ago. I first heard about her from all the fawning threads on style and beauty.

Maybe our own expectations of people we don't actually know is too high, and it's actually our problem and not theirs.

I just don't know anymore. My own thoughts and opinions are frying my brain.

@Misterpostman - I think it's been established many times on this thread that FOD's account is quite literally 9.99% his children.

99.99%....

A huge learning curve for me was a teenager and discovering how theyvall shared screenshots of conversations as 'evidence' and 'proof' of god knows what. Made me realise how easily you could be caught out (and misrepresented by selective screenshotting/missing sarcasm/humour) we all need to conduct ourselves very carefully. Unless you literally don't give a shit how you come across. Most of us do though.

TireSwing 100% of his account. And yet unlike mod, I don't think he has been mentioned at all on this thread.

Instead the semantics of the appropriateness or not of threatening to stab and cut people is being discussed.

It is a little odd.

Genuine question. This bullying filter thing on Instagram- how does that work. Have a look at Emma Gonzales' feed (from Marjorey Stoneman). The level of abuse she receives is unreal, absolutely unreal.

None of it appears to be getting blocked, people saying she should have been shot, she is a queer bitch, a etc.

Where is the bullying filter?!

That girl has my admiration for riding that storm for her cause.

I think FOD has been covered extensively on the thread already. The discussion had moved on to the need for moderation and/or how instagrammers can control the content on their feed.

I've read and followed all of the previous threads. I'm on Instagram and on here. I don't comment on Instagram because it does feel like a different world. Here feels more conversational.
I used to follow a lot of instamums, but unfollowed most when I couldn't have anymore children. Some I still followed until recently...when I realised that I was comparing my life to their squares.
I am disappointed in CHi - she was lovely when I met her and I admired her directness.

@Misterpostman - I have him the 0.01% leeway as his stories are occasionally not about the children. Like tonight's.

I've just gone back to the top of the thread and even scanning through the first few pages have seen FOD mentioned a fair bit, admittedly not as much as MOD as it was around the account deletion time.

If there's something you'd like to add/discuss in relation to him then go for it!

Or don't mention him at all - keep it more general and less focused on one account?

Another IGer giving a masterclass in how to provoke measured and balanced feedback is simplythenest. The comments underneath are respectful, as signposted by the original post. I don't think it's any coincidence that she had a successful blog for some time before she evolved into IG (her blog was awesome).

sparkle that’s interesting - I read somewhere that people are more critical of others than themselves (e.g. if they are rude it’s because they were having an awful day, if someone else was rude it’s because that person is a rude person). This is the opposite of the sort of affirmation and assumption that we are harder on ourselves than others often preached by instamums (#selfcare etc). But maybe it is the case!

@misterpostman I personally think one of the reasons is the thread topic. Various threads have different variants. This one is called 'instamums in the telegraph' so discussing FOD's account being completely child based in theory doesn't directly link. Although he is mentioned in the article. It has been well covered and it seems he's toned down and pulled back on stories and posts where he seemed to make the children appear as feral as possible and his care haphazard.
I know he was recently criticised for driving with the twins not properly strapped in, but they have 2 different kinds of car seat and 1 is the one with the bolster in front and not straps and having looked at what was posted I think they were in those seats, so perfectly safe but no visible harness over the shoulders. He doesn't seem to involve himself in answering to critism but he does seem to make subtle changes. I'm guessing with the book tour, Renault deal (surely that year is up soon?)and ads lined up he can't actually ditch the kids from the accounts, although before she went quiet this seemed to be something on MoD's mind.

I think FoD is increasingly odd. To just ignore the furore, the articles, the fuss and then produce such a strangled, choreographed post where he puts his daughter centre stage while his wife looks increasingly uncomfortable just to cock two fingers to what people are saying is really, really bizarre. His thread is obviously being heavily policed because there is no dissent, no conversation and practically no mention of MoD. It is like watching a fantasist at work. Odd.

FOD has been mentioned loads on these threads. At one point, there was a thread specifically about him.

He may not have been mentioned as much on this particular one, but that is because people are commenting on events that are happening currently on IG and FOD has been a bit quiet of late, partly because he's doing a book tour so hasn't been posting as much.

TireSwing Bored&Tired Perhaps you're right, and it has all been said. I thought a thread title about an article discussing the use of kids to sell ads, might mention the family member still doing it.

But if he's been given the ok because he didn't challenge the MN threads, so be it.

Keep responding to the bait from the screeching women distracting you on their accounts.

Nah, I think his arrogance will be his downfall. Advertisers will have seen the papers too and anyone who can't/won't engage with reasoned debate such as the Guardian starts to look either stupid or arrogant, or both.

There is mention of mod on fod’s Latest post, he has replied to comments saying she is just on a break and will be back, so that’s kind of confirmation right?

Spring I think he is doing exactly that, sticking two fingers up. He has shown more of the older kids than ever before since mod came on these threads. I think she has been a scapegoat for his feed. I don't think things would ever had gone so wrong so her without his over exposure of their children.

I think he has been given a free pass because he is a man.

I’m sad to say I’m not sure any brands will care, it’s just business as usual

People probably won’t change and I’m concerned it’ll just get worse

The only thing that gives me hope is children who are learning to say what they think and want

@misterpostman I don't think he's been given the ok, but the impression I get is these threads can be pulled if they are not on topic?
I agree he is increasingly weird and think if his Renault ad was recently filmed, his wife's body language was very uncomfortable. We can't comment on 'what we think' as it's 'bitching' but all of his actions and her comments scream to me of that household not really knowing which way to turn and not necessarily agreeing with the nature of the spotlight and attention. This is supposed to be his turn to shine, his book release and book tour but it's completely overshadowed by his wife's account deactivating and her activity on it.
I personally hope there is some monitoring of children on Instagram or articulately those in adverts as some of these accounts seem to get dazzled by the instafame.