Instamums in the Telegraph

[caperberries]

Is there a new thread about this?

Lisa Eldridge commented "Can we not? This is not the Daily Mail comment section" and wafted out again, and everyone was all blush and afterwards it was all sweetness.

I love her approach and that she was listened to

For me, as a user of Instagram, who did enjoy many 'instamums' accounts, I'm surprised that on such a large public platform so many would behave so childishly and post so impulsively without thinking things through. The sweary rants with babies in arms or children nearby, the aggressive posts and speeches to put people bothering to watch them in their place. From people who want that platform to be their job, pay their bills and provide a lifestyle. It's such bad business and such a turn off. What company wants to work with a lose cannon that mouths off with no regard, or be associated with people who attack other people.
Instagram has felt, murky, judgey and unkind. The temporarily deleted account should have taken that action, to have a breather, and rethink. The comments and DM were rash and silly and embarrassing. That's not anyone on here's fault. I wish I'd never heard of some of these accounts because these women and their poisonous rants into my face through their phones are just so depressing and uncomfortable. A story of MP trying on an outfit or showing a unicorn with Tom Cruise, compared to someone ranting and swearing in my face? Ugh. Think about what you want from the platform you are on and post accordingly.

@SugarBunker why do you think then?

Because having discussed it at length I can see how she vented, thought about it, got more pissed off and just went for it with her feelings.

@Boredandtired

The discussion topics are not what I find bitchy. The personal comments are what I found bitchy.

I don't find insta anywhere near as bitchy as Mumsnet, probably because the posters aren't anonymous.

HolyMountain, Lisa Eldridge is in another league in regards to Insta and YouTube. She comes across as classy and elegant.

Polar opposite to the disgusting ranting I've seen today. Screeching into your phone about petty shit is embarrassing. In fact it's embarrassing to watch.

Sofia that is untrue

We are moderated here, the comments on IG have been eye opening in a bad way

@Sofialemon that's literally the biggest pile of 💩 I've ever heard.

You don't find IG comments bitchy? Oh do come on now.

Ginger yes.

‘Classy’ is one adjective that couldn’t be bestowed amongst any InstaMums apart from Mother Pukka.

It's almost as if people think a bitchy mumsnet rant might get some more likes and engagement..

Insta can get very bitchy, it just gets covered up as people delete them off their feeds, things last here. Which is probably why a lot of them don’t engage here.

@sofialemon but there's not really many on here is there? (Personal comments) There's discussion about big accounts and behaviour from account holders and on content on them. On an anonymous forum it's far less bitchy because it's anonymous. On Instagram the bitching is another level. If anyone speaks their mind they get attacked and DMed. Perhaps you just don't follow the types of accounts that have it on and have luckily missed out? If your upset here you'd be horrified by some stuff that's been going on there.

Yes ginger, I think that’s what’s going on. Jumping on the insta bitching bandwagon. But I still think there’s a lot of unnecessary comments on here too.

BTW ....Is Natasha still on that step with her Mulberry handbag?

#neverforgetthatone

@sparklefluff I didn't word what I put very well. I mean that the cancer comment didn't cause her high level of aggression - she'd already reached a high level of aggression just in response to someone giving a measured but partly negative opinion of her friend's event.
I find it hard to fathom how that can cause her to (a) feel that angry and (b) decide to post about to a large platform. I really do. I can understand her being upset that her friend was criticised and angry but I can't get how she couldn't just dismiss it. Just because it was said doesn't mean everyone reading took it as gospel. When I read Amazon reviews or TripAdviser reviews I don't think that every single one is giving me an accurate picture.

Yes I did say ‘no one is going to argue with some one with cancer are they?’ Which, on reflection, was shitty and mean and I am sorry for saying it.

Ginger

Sofia so you don't find the Instagram comments bitchy, fair enough, but would you say some were threatening? Because many other social media sites and the police would.

Absolutely, but it's so interesting to watch. The insta perfect facades are unravelling at an alarming rate.

oh my god, people. She said it as a joke. Jesus. How many times have you said to someone who offended your friend, 'I'm gonna kill her/do you need me to put a hit out on him?'. Don't say you haven't. It's. A. JOKE. Wtf is happening to everyone getting all bent out of shape?

Aw no, see @timetogetanewfence.I always agree with you on these threads! This,though? No,there's some things you just don't joke about.
If you've got a high social media presence you don't joke about, or even like stuff alluding to it in case you're linked or seen as liking in any way.
Even liking comments can come across as endorsing.
I have a public profile. Nowhere NEAR anything like these big IGers before anyone accuses!
Thing with social media is that you need to keep an eye on.
I have a high social media presence.Nowhere near this level, admittedly! Although still you need some common sense in the public eye and you just don't say stuff like that.It doesn't always translate easily in the written word from joke to threat.

Girlstolelondon, who is the one who made the 'stabbing' comment on TMWCs post, is actually a rather fabulous lady who has also had cancer herself and does tonnes to raise awareness. It's a shame she made that comment, I guess she thought she was defending Laura.

These have been going since last year snd there are literally hundreds and hundreds of comments that are personal slights and nothing to do with ethics. Most of the worst were deleted but there are posters on here who are fully aware what has been said and are trying to gloss over it.
Completely agree with this too. Lots of glossing over from some.

I also run a business, I have someone locally who is seriously trying to get one up over me in a financial way. I have moaned to my friend I could throttle her, in the heat of the moment mid rant. Would I go on my business Instagram and say the same thing? Absolutely not, I would kiss goodbye to my business.

@Moonkissedlegs she was just defending her friend. I think if you read her reply she says clearly how she felt and appreciates it was inappropriate

Wow. Catching up with this thread. It’s moving fast!
I found the threads about disclosure and transparency in the style and beauty section really eye opening. Erica Davis and Kat Farmer engaged really well on those threads and listened to the concerns some had regarding ads/partnerships. They changed how they sign posted their posts and were very professional in their approach. Maybe that is a take away for others.
Kudos to Susie for coming on here and handling this so well. I think these discussions should be kept professional. Everyone should conduct themselves how they would in a workplace.

I also have a public profile, and have said a few things I've then regretted, but have to thank my stars I don't have a large following to publicly screw up in front of.

For some of these IG people it's a steep learning curve. I say some, because people such as Caroline Hirons, imo, should know better. But, it's blatantly obvious she doesn't give a shit, which isn't effecting her popularity either, so why should she stop I guess?

(The reason is because it's the right thing to do, but can't win em all)

I even worry about what I say in WhatsApp etc. It could be screenshot. It’s worrying how easy it is to say something via social media as you would to a friend in person and then realise how it is actually much more permanent.