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Instamums in the Telegraph

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caperberries · 23/05/2018 09:06

Is there a new thread about this?

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nipersvest · 23/05/2018 19:28

to me, the silence from FOD says they are taking some time to formulate a next move, I really hope that doesn't include attempting to throw MN under a bus as a scapegoat instead of admitting MOD's errors of judgement.

SugarBunker · 23/05/2018 19:30

Hmm not sure if that was an intended kicker to SH by The Telegraph or just clunky writing.
He has said that one or one thing and the aim of the Renault car for a year scheme is to prove Renault's claim that the car has replaced the dining table as the hub of family socialising.

SpringSprangSprung · 23/05/2018 19:33

I agree Nipers - they need to think carefully about their next move and his continued silence is now becoming a bit odd as it has hit the papers. I don't think they will try to deflect too badly on MN as that will just wind up all the people with all the screenshots ........ my guess is conciliatory, moving forward, better moderated and no bullying please kind of return. We shall see.

ElspethFlashman · 23/05/2018 19:34

Oh god, what did UGG say this morning? I dread to imagine.

PunsandNeedles · 23/05/2018 19:35

HolyMountain ok but appalling? she's made a bit of a mess up. She got carried away with herself with the book and the KK post and messed with the wrong gals.

ElspethFlashman · 23/05/2018 19:36

^ just realised that sounded snottier than I intended - I absolutely love her morning baby raves and quite enjoy her suggestive wine tastings. I just think she doesn't seem to know enough about it to comment publicly.

jamoncrumpets · 23/05/2018 19:37

None of its 'appalling' - it's not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things. It's just all been blown out of proportion, by influencers and commenters and MN users alike.

PunsandNeedles · 23/05/2018 19:37

Sugarbunker oh ok. Car = dining table. Tragic.

PunsandNeedles · 23/05/2018 19:40

MN is much more powerful than them.

SugarBunker · 23/05/2018 19:41

In ad speak it is apparently Puns.

publicis.london/news/what-really-happens-behind-car-doors/

Look on bright side, perhaps saves cost of dining table? Multi-task your car.

PunsandNeedles · 23/05/2018 19:43

Adidas. mod was foolish and offhand. Agree she should have managed her posts but she didn't make those comments

PunsandNeedles · 23/05/2018 19:45

AND this story has been told in detail on the influencer ethics threads. Shouldn't we all move on?

SugarBunker · 23/05/2018 19:51

Anyone going anywhere nice on their holidays?

AdidasGirl · 23/05/2018 19:52

I've seen with my own eyes @PunsandNeedles what she said and did to a friend of mine.
And yes I know this has been discussed previously.
But I am sick and tired of reading the love fest over on IG over her.Whilst those of us here on MN are continually called "Trolls" "Haters" "Jealous" etc.
I am none of the above.
I'm just a 40 something who stopped being a Fan Girl when Bros were no more.

In other news..My dog has just eaten yet another dog Bed.
This is the 8th and was meant to be "indestructible"

PunsandNeedles · 23/05/2018 19:54

yeah Disney with you lot paid for by mumsnet.

Oddish · 23/05/2018 19:55

Oh no adidas my dog won’t even look at her lovingly chosen £££ dog bed so I don’t know what’s worse.. at least your dog is taking an interest? 😬

Popcorninapot · 23/05/2018 19:56

I've been lurking on these threads and enjoying the debate. Also shocked by the difference in how things are discussed here (robust, intelligent, fair debate) and the hysteria on IG...

One thing that strikes me about the 'say something nice or nothing at all' and 'be kind' defence is the blurry lines between personal account and business of the insta influencers.

I have a closed and tightly controlled Instagram account, but if I posted a picture of my new kitchen tiles or my new outfit and someone left a comment saying they looked rubbish I'd be a bit miffed and probably would think people should ignore/unfollow rather than make a 'mean' comment about my personal decorating choices (though arguably if I'm that sensitive or bothered I probably shouldn't post them on the internet)

However if I published a paper at work and had feedback that it wasn't well written/was inaccurate/wasn't following my industry guidelines I would never feel like the criticism was 'mean'. I wouldn't be jumping for joy but would address the feedback in a professional manner.

Equally whenever I have run events the feedback afterwards has always been anonymous. Because people tend to be more honest when they are not talking directly to you/trying to impress you.. It's not 'behind your back' vs 'to your face'. And getting feedback on something you are doing is a good thing even if that feedback is about how to improve things.

As soon as you move into a business context, whether that's your own profession or when you are buying a service, purchasing a product from a business, watching an advert, reading a published novel or article it's much more complex than 'be kind' or 'be nice'. I think it's more important to be fair and be honest.

But because these accounts either started off as personal and become business or are still a bit of both, there doesn't seem to be that dividing line between professional feedback and someone being mean to you personally.

It is possible to live your life with the motto to be kind and thoughtful and fair and still be able to give robust criticism and feedback either on a professional basis or to businesses you engage with.

SugarBunker · 23/05/2018 19:57

I hope mumsnet arrange a free pair of Mouse Ears for us all. I'm not sharing.

PunsandNeedles · 23/05/2018 19:57

Adidas you can be something in between. Not a troll, not a fan girl. She's shut down her account. She's been humiliated by the press. Her on line friends have made it worse. It's done.

Oddish · 23/05/2018 19:58

popcorn I think the problem is an ‘influencer’ trying to be a normal, personal and personable account as well as being a business. Which is clearly not possible.

PunsandNeedles · 23/05/2018 20:02

It is Mother Pukka has done it. I'm rather fond of mod but she's no mother pukka and it's obvious why.

Oddish · 23/05/2018 20:04

Sorry I should’ve said it’s not possible to do without a business head and a robust personality, which MP has I think.

SugarBunker · 23/05/2018 20:04

Is clearly possible, just rare

Business account doing normal, personal and personable is equivalent of no-makeup makeup

greygray · 23/05/2018 20:05

FOD has posted...apparently she is just taking a break

Oddish · 23/05/2018 20:06

Yeah sorry, not possible was the wrong thing to say. Not possible for some. Difficult to achieve etc