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Wellthisisawkwardnow · 2018-05-19T15:44:52+00:00

When the couple were making their vows - heads firmly in programmes

BrendasUmbrella · 20/05/2018 22:33

I thought maybe the preacher went over his allotted time and that's why the RF looked a bit spooked. He spoke for 13 minutes, and I expect he was supposed to speak for 10 at most? The stuff about fire and the internet was meandering and vague and seemed like it was very off the top of his head. I was restless and wondering when he'd be done, I'm not surprised if the people in the church were wondering the same.

BrendasUmbrella · 20/05/2018 22:37

I found it odd, I never saw one image of the Queen with a smile on her face. Yet, grumpy Prince Philip managed to smile.

He's in his nineties and he'd had an operation weeks before. It's very likely that she was concerned for him. He didn't go to church with her the next day.

Generally I imagine the Queen is above being passive aggressive. If she doesn't like something it probably won't happen. Sulking just doesn't seem to be her thing. We haven't seen her interact with Meghan, but she was happy to give her dog a lift in her car, so I doubt things are frosty there.

goodbyestranger · 20/05/2018 22:57

Hg doesn't disappear at twelve weeks. Hg is a totally different thing. She gets morning sickness like lots of women do but according to journalists Carole flew into a panic so the silly over reaction required ordinary morning sickness to be inflated to hg, to justify the hospitalisation. Sufferers of true hg do not suddenly become well enough at twelve weeks to go about town to social events without any need for hydration. It was completely ridiculous. Unfortunately a poor nurse died too, in case people had forgotten, which was utterly tragic - leaving her own children behind.

goodbyestranger · 20/05/2018 22:59

Brenda the sermon wasn't in the least meandering and vague to those who understood it.

goodbyestranger · 20/05/2018 23:01

Larry I'm well aware of the seriousness of true hg. Kate had morning sickness, not hg. That's not minimising the very serious nature of hg for those who suffer it. She didn't.

QueenDoris · 20/05/2018 23:21

To be honest weddings are pretty dull things. You are supposed to look interested, but they always go on for too long, with dull prayers, boring hymns and a priests that waffle on and on about god and love and shit. When really you'd just want to get out of there and crack into the booze

C8H10N4O2 · 20/05/2018 23:24

Hg doesn't disappear at twelve weeks

It can do. HG can also start at twelve weeks or a range of times in between. Just like the symptoms can vary.

according to journalists Carole flew into a panic

Ah, unnamed journalists. Well obviously it must be true. Would these be the same unnamed journalists who took delight in stressing Carole Middleton's common origins and lowly jobs?

Palace protocol is to announce Royal pregnancies in the second trimester to avoid announcing in the miscarriage risk period.

I had HG with each of my pregnancies, for two of them I was hospitalised and on a drip. When it stopped it was like someone had flipped a switch - I felt normal again which at the time felt amazing. DM had it in much the same way.

Not everyone experiences it the same way or at the same time.

biscuitraider · 20/05/2018 23:48

The queen apparently let Meghan and her mum choose "one of her cars out of her fleet" for the drive to the church.

She'll also be giving them one of her houses mansions out of her stockpile of houses no doubt.

How obscenely rich the royals are, without ever having to have earned it.

InkSnail · 21/05/2018 00:38

How obscenely rich the royals are, without ever having to have earned it.

So are quite a lot of other people, by sheer luck, inherited wealth, overpaid jobs, crime, gambling, investments, fraud, property speculation etc. The RF are pretty benign considering some of the other financial shockers in the world.

Lilyfleur · 21/05/2018 01:06

I thought the obvious smirking & giggling at Bishop Michael was incredibly rude and made them look like a bunch of crashing snobs. Really poor manners.

This. Totally agree.

nocoolnamesleft · 21/05/2018 02:12

Giggling was pretty restrained. I was swearing at the screen at that point. Along the lines of "You fucking moron, you're fucking ranting on, and on, and on, about how fantabulous fucking fire is?????? In Windsor Castle???!!!!!"

Nakedavenger74 · 21/05/2018 06:41

I noticed during Kate and Williams wedding the RF did the same thing. Either looking down, staring straight ahead or looking at the programme.

If you look at Harry during Kate and Williams he is looking down at his feet and never at the vicar or the altar. William the same at H and M

It struck me as some kind of symbolic reverent thing. Either to the B and G or the religious service.

JamieFrasersArse · 21/05/2018 06:47

"You fucking moron, you're fucking ranting on, and on, and on, about how fantabulous fucking fire is?????? In Windsor Castle???!!!!!"

I don't think the bishop is the fucking moron here...

GnotherGnu · 21/05/2018 07:56

I don't think the bishop is the fucking moron here...

Agreed.

goodbyestranger · 21/05/2018 08:15

Well no-one is going to name a journalist on MN are they?

Kate had a bad dose of morning sickness, not 'hg' - unless you're Kate. It's just more spin from the royals to cover their arse. Look at the way the media coverage swung instantly and very, very noticeably in Meghan's favour late last week, having been pretty unpleasant, as soon as the more experienced PR machine got going when the dad pulled out. The spin is very effective when the better lot are doing it.

Yes about the abject rudeness to the bishop and a bigger yes about who is the fucking moron.

C8H10N4O2 · 21/05/2018 08:54

Well no-one is going to name a journalist on MN are they?

Why not? A journalist who wrote something in public - cite the reference to their articles or stop making things up.

Kate had a bad dose of morning sickness, not 'hg' - unless you're Kate

Again - you are making claims with no evidence. Are you part of her medical team? Cite sources or stop trivialising what is a serious condition.

goodbyestranger · 21/05/2018 09:01

It wasn't written in an article, otherwise that wouldn't be an issue, obviously.

I'm not trivialising hg by saying it's a quite different medical condition from morning sickness. The fact that Kate exaggerated doesn't trivialise hg, you're not being logical (just sycophantic). And morning sickness is quite bad enough - I should know (eight doses of seriously awful morning sickness when I could think of absolutely nothing else all day and all night except how massively sick I felt/ was being).

HasAnyoneGotAProblemWithThat · 21/05/2018 09:02

There is no way the RF would say Kate had HG if she didn’t as someone would be bound to blab.

biscuitraider · 21/05/2018 09:11

How obscenely rich the royals are, without ever having to have earned it.

So are quite a lot of other people, by sheer luck, inherited wealth, overpaid jobs, crime, gambling, investments, fraud, property speculation etc. The RF are pretty benign considering some of the other financial shockers in the world.

None of that excuses the fact that the royal family haven't earned their wealth. Other people inherit, but it had been earned one way or another by their ancestors. You certainly can't justify what the royals get by comparing it with earnings from crime, gambling, investments etc. That doesn't make sense.

goodbyestranger · 21/05/2018 09:20

HasAnyoneGotAProblemWithThat yes sure........

C8H10N4O2 · 21/05/2018 09:21

It wasn't written in an article, otherwise that wouldn't be an issue, obviously.

OK so basically just some gossip from a random on the internet being repeated as fact. Like the other poster who apparently "knows from a friend" that Meghan is already pregnant.

I'll just file that under fake news then.

C8H10N4O2 · 21/05/2018 09:24

he fact that Kate exaggerated doesn't trivialise hg, you're not being logical (just sycophantic)

I'm a staunch republican.

Claiming women fake HG is a massive problem for women who have it (I have had HG, the default assumption is that you just have 'bad morning sickness'). You are reinforcing that view with your FOAF gossip bollocks.

Hollyboobieboo · 21/05/2018 09:25

How obscenely rich the royals are, without ever having to have earned it.

Well it’s not like the Queen sits on the sofa all day watching telly and contributing nothing like a benefit cheat is it? The woman is in her 90s and STILL working while others have retired decades earlier. Charity work is still giving up your day, time and energy for the benefit of others. She still has to host and meet people, make small talk with strangers, even if she doesn’t feel like it. Same with the other royals.

So are quite a lot of other people, by sheer luck, inherited wealth, overpaid jobs, crime, gambling, investments, fraud, property speculation etc

I don’t see how having an overpaid ‘job’ and property speculation are examples of having money for doing nothing. Sure there are people born into wealth. There are also a lot of honest hardworking self -made millionaires out there. There seems to be an anti rich attitude in this country that the rich have all been handed it and the poor have missed the gravy train. The reality is being rich and successful is looked down upon as getting ahead of yourself by the poor. It’s best to have no aspirations, ambition to better yourself. Don’t do a course / training to get a better paying job, don’t save or learn about money managment. Just stick to a council house, benefits or low paying job and be bitter that you didn’t get handed a silver platter. Those with money are all immoral and corrupt. Being poor and not being able to help yourself let alone others is somehow more virtious...

C8H10N4O2 · 21/05/2018 09:31

There seems to be an anti rich attitude in this country

No I think there is a desire that the rich, whether "self made" or otherwise acknowledge their good fortune depended on others and not entirely their own efforts. However hard they may have worked for it.

NotAnotherNoughtiesTune · 21/05/2018 09:38

I expect they looked down because they didn't want the cameras videoing them then micro-analysing those 2 seconds they looked grumpy/yawned etc. Granted it backfired as everyone is micro-analysing the fact they didn't look up. When in the Public Eye you are always under scrutiny.

Besides which they are British and us Brits are known to be quite publicly stoic.

Zara and Kate likely uncomfortable.
Her Maj likely worried about Philip.

I think Rev wanted laughter and a bit of tittering. It's hard to say without hearing the conversation whether Kate and Camilla were mocking him or smirking because they think he's hilarious, have never heard a sermon like this before or even laughing at a facial expression he had made.

I think they all did fine. I was pleased Charles went over to Doria showed a more gentlemanly side to him.

I think Beatrice and Eugenie were the only ones actively being disrespectful to be honest. But that's only from what the camera captured. They could've been laughing imagining their Mums face or laughing at their Dad falling asleep.