AIBU to think it's still a while before we accept a fully black person marrying into royals?

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Im not convinced it's quite as progressive as everyone's suggesting... I don't think a wedding has to be a political statement either but I do wonder if she wasn't mixed race if she'd be accepted by them as things stand in 2018?

I doubt it accendo.

Race threads never go well on a MN full of defensive people reading to jump and call somebody racist for wanting to discuss and understand issues around racism.

Who cares about the colour of someone?! Think about who actually cares enough to complain OP and don’t be silly.

I'm mixed race but most people think I'm 'English' or maybe Italian sometimes so I won't pretend to know what it's like to be treated as a person of colour in this society even though I am.
I don't think MM looks black and maybe if she did no she wouldn't be as widely accepted but we'll never actually know that. Before Harry met Meghan I'm sure most people thought a mixed race American divorcee wouldn't be accepted but here we are, and I'm glad.

Precedents

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/27/meghan-markle-prince-harry-royal-family-marriage

@HappyLollipop my goodness you have a mighty chip on your shoulder dear.

Meghan, and any other person of mixed race is free to identify with whichever race they wish. Just because you are 'fully black' doesn't make you superior to anyone of mixed heritage.

She's a very beautiful girl. Perhaps that's annoyed you.

I know two white people with thick afro style hair.. They often get it straightened.. It's just hair type... How is that a race thing... Why is that yer not accepting of her routes etc

The classification of biracial people as black is tied to the legacy of racist laws that relied on the so-called “one-drop rule,” which dictated that even a tiny amount of black ancestry meant a person was considered black.

The one-drop rule, which social scientists call hypodescent, was considered legal in the U.S. for centuries. As recently as the 1980s, a woman applying for a passport was told she could not call herself white because she had a black ancestor four generations back. Although the law is now defunct, studies show that many people still think of those who are biracial as black.

The above is the origin of the one-drop rule and is no way applicable to the UK - just saying.

She's mixed race but has taken steps to make herself look less black

So her intention when straightening her hair is to look less black? Not that she likes her hair straight? Not because she thinks it's more on trend? Not because she can do her hair any way she chooses?
FFS, lots of white women straighten their hair. When I had a tight perm in the 80s, was I trying to look black?

@Failingat40 no I do not have a chip on my shoulder, yes she's a beautiful girl no wonder Harry fancied her on suits but are you trying to say black women axany be beautiful too? That's very racist of you.

Meghan herself identifys as 'biracial' by people calling her 'black' they are also going against her wishes too.

Anaxy WTF that's supposed to be can't

@HappyLollipop wow. Do you realise your throwing the race card around?

Because I said Meghan is mixed race and beautiful you think that means I'm racist!?

You being an absolute bell-end

I bet your a real catch.

This thread is getting out of hand.
I hope MNHQ are watching.

Why is marrying royalty something to aspire to, for anyone of any race?

Is the royal family supposed to a reflection of society as a whole?

Are people out there giving themselves a pat on the back because the 6th in line to the throne has married someone not white and not British?

I’m mixed race and I couldn’t give a shiny shit.

@Failingat40 no im not throwing the 'race card' about your the only bellend I think here, even your now referring to her as mixed race so tell me what was so wrong with what I said? Is she mixed race or black? I never said she can't identify as what she wants but she identifies as 'biracial' or mixed race so why are you so eager to say she's black, you wouldn't class her her as white would you? Being mixed is a legitimate race that ought to be recognised too just like black, white or Asian. But I better go tell my DP and cousins their not mixed race they are black because a stranger on the internet said so!

Jesus, are black people the only ones to manage to twist themselves in so many identities, groups and issues?

Would it have given you hope, OP, if he had married a fully blooded Asian lady? Or a Maori? Or is this decade only dedicated to the "first ever black" XXXX? Will we get to move on to the next victimised group soon enough?

If Meghan is proud to describe herself as biracial then its nobody elses business to tell her she should be 'more black'.
Nobody is saying she should be 'more white' are they?
Saying you are biracial is by definition not racist as it acknowledges you have 2 heritages. You really dont have to pick one to the exclusion of the other. In fact its pretty disrespectful to whichever parent you are rejecting. If 2 people loved each other enough to have kids without having a wobbly over each other's colour then they both deserve to be acknowledged in your heritage.

If you are mixed race you get to chose what feels right for you and only you. Nobody whatever colour thier skin is, gets to tell you who you should be.

The quicker people accept that people come in all colours not just ebony black or milk bottle white, have different heritages or criticise the way they do thier hair, the way they talk, what thier job is, how they live, who they know, the less we would need to keep going on about someone being 'not black enough'. What actually has a person to got do to prove they are 'black'?

A person has the right to determine all the above according to how they feel, thier own cultural preferences, thier environment, thier families not because someone says "you are x colour therefore you should do/believe/promote x,y,z to fit my expectations of you."