This Morning - Kids having ears pierced is child abuse ?

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What utter nonsense. Just tuned in as heard them mention this subject stemmed from Mumsnet ! Now the woman is saying Kids ear piercing is basicly the same as FGM !! I mean WTF ? Get a grip. No it not !

I don't think it's child abuse. That's quite an exaggeration

Really? If I got a sharp implement and jabbed holes into your childs flesh causing pain and bleeding, would that not be child abuse? How is it not if its my own kid and its to make them "look pretty"?

@Dazed it does seem like you're trying to conflate the issue. Believe it or not you can be a feminist and dye your hair, have BOTOX etc. The difference is it is an adult making informed decisions about their own body.

However, punching metal through a child's ear is just wrong on any level. It isn't necessary to harm a child so they look cosmetically better. I also don't understand people saying that their young children nagged at them to get it done. I didn't realise pre-school children had such power.

Obviously not the same, but it is an abusive thing to do.

Jesus, it’s not cheap and chavvy and neither is it abuse.

Tattoes are permanent and very painful. Not at all comparable to ear piercing.

The nickel allergy caused by my pierced ears is permanent and has seen me hospitalised.

Jesus, it’s not cheap and chavvy and neither is it abuse

I'll correct that for you.

Jesus, it’s not cheap and chavvy in my personal opinion and neither is it abuse in my personal opinion

HTH.

@Icantcope I agree with you on all three points.

In my opinion it is abuse. A baby has no say in it and it’s all down to the parents believing it enhances their child’s looks. Like their child is a toy.

In my opinion it looks chavvy on a two year old.

Those who did it when their dc were very young, what was the main motivation?

Did you get sons ears done too?

We know the motivation: to make sure people knew the small person was a GIRL. Same people who put big stupid bows on heads with no hair!

But iron is correct

My mum forced me to have my ears done, I still remember it. I was screaming and didn’t want to and she did the whole “you ruin everything” thing and so I eventually did. Now I’m 31 and still have uneven ear piercings from a child, so not only can I not wear earrings but it was a fucking awful ordeal.
She also pressured me into having my belly button pierced at a later age, and now have a big scar from it and also where it failed to stretch in pregnancy (even years after it was taken out).

So yeah. Let a kid make their own decisions. It’s a piercing that will be there FOREVER and I hate mine.

And it’s even worse as a baby for goodness sake, they have absolutely no control and are left with holes in them. It isn’t right.

It hurts the child, who can't consent, for no other reason than 'to look good'. That's abuse in my eyes. Similar to foot binding which served a similar purpose. And to an extent, FGM.

@omBreROSE it’s a public forum and iron as it happens, is right.

Smeddum

About what?
You mean you agree?
That doesn’t mean she is correct!
That means you agree with her.
I ( on the other hand) thinks she needs to chill... as she is a little too worked up over something not that important.
Not to most normal rational adults l hang out with anyway!

You think hurting babies for your own selfish reasons isn’t important? Pfft.

Either way, you can’t tell someone on a public forum to “do one”, because firstly it’s public and secondly, you’re the one getting all irate at being told you’re wrong.

Smeddum
Honestly- please learn to read.

Find my post.
I suggested it should be made illegal/banned for babies.
I am more comfortable with 7/8.
I have no idea why iron couldn’t read that too - however, well done for offering such enthusiastic support to her!

@omBreROSE don’t patronise me, I understood your post perfectly. The fact you contradicted yourself in that post, makes it fairly ironic that you said I should learn to read.

Try writing posts that make sense, before you tell other posters to learn to read

“It’s not a big deal” “it should be banned” - your words, same post, so which is it?

And do one is just a ridiculous way to speak to someone. Infantile and petulant.

But the subject comes up with regularity on MN so I guess people have strong feelings about it. Having said that, in real life I have never heard anyone go on and on about it. Not even heard it discussed. Only on MN.

My ears are pierced, both DDs ears are pierced. Its a thing culturally for us anyway. I don't mind what anyone else does and wouldn't tolerate anyone lecturing me about it.

Often the threads descend into some sort of veiled racism anyway considering piercing and other cultures. As if Western way is best and only way. Wasn't there a thread just last week?

The childishness because someone dared disagree with you @omBreROSE
Are you always this rude?