#AD

[MintyT]

I don't know about you, but since the instamums posts I have really noticed the #AD on posts, and to be honest I had no idea I was so gullible. I loved the threads regards instamums and really think MN made a small change, well done us

Um, phalange, this is what you said:

*Wow. I'm totally shocked at your last post. You think women have only just started speaking up for themselves? You think women have only just started marching for their rights?

How do you think we have come to have the rights we currently have in this country? The right to vote, the right to a safe abortion, the right to maternity leave, the right to not be raped by our husbands? Things that we totally take for granted now?

Your post is totally insulting to the women over the last few decades (and before) who have worked tirelessly to 'speak up for women'.*

You took what I said, out of context, and started getting up in arms about how I'm insulting women. When, actually, the 'sisterly' thing to do, when you're trying to offer constructive criticism, is to say something like this, maybe:

'I think women have probably worked tirelessly to use their voice for years, not just recently. I believe that your comment negates the fact that they've always had to deal with crap being thrown their way...' etc.

Hmm. So, do you blame me for telling you to calm down when you completely misinterpreted my post?? I even said, 'there's still work to do', so we actually (shock/horror) AGREED with each other. Did you miss that one, in your attempts to get all defensive?

Not being funny but Natasha Bailie seriously needs to look up what a troll actually is.

It's not someone who disagrees with you nor someone who doesn't like you.

When people get defensive and start shouting, it puts the other person on the back foot, online OR in real life. So, yes, you needed to take a step back and calm yourself. Discussions don't need to be shouting matches (although that tends to be a theme on AIBU, which is ironic, given the title of the group)

jamoncrumpets - I want a discussion, look, discussing now we're not all waving and omigodding.

madamgrizzly if they did start slipping declaring ads, then fair enough, you have a point as they do need to be clear. People should know (rightly) if they are being sold to.
I'm a bit puzzled to some earlier on in the thread saying about, for example, though FOD'S account and a picture that it wasn't clearly marked gifted - it slapped you across the face with a gifted tag in the picture
OK, it wasn't in the text at the bottom which people are drawn to first if they're reading, but GIFTED in capitals was emblazoned across the picture itself.
Seems to be quite clear to me?

@MadameGrizzly genuine question, here: if people started disclosing that the trip away, the car, and their mani was free... would it still irritate you? Sometimes although the discussions on here are interesting about disclosure (which I've said before is absolutely the right thing to do, it's a no-brainer), there are some posters that complain about, even if the ads ARE disclosed, that the unrealistic lifestyle grates on them, so they still end up complaining (not saying you, just some people). Isn't that the point that people should just unfollow, if it makes them feel like their life is less-than, that they can't afford it?

I mean, I'd sure as hell love a free holiday, but I can't afford it, but it doesn't irritate me that someone does it, free or otherwise.

It wasn't clear

It was in white print on a pale background shoved to the side

As you know

It just seems that even if things ARE tagged as gifted or sponsored or ads, there seems to be a lot of people that almost curtain-twitch, almost as if they're staring at their neighbour, going 'damn them and their range rover. wish i had one. wonder how they're paying for it. i'd certainly never be able to afford that, wonder how they get off traipsing around the village like that. doesn't seem authentic.'

They are ashamed of their own ads. Clearly

They aren't shouting it out

I wonder how Dorset cereals felt about the bodge job MOD made with that ad?

See now Susie Verrill has posted up something about enjoying a protein bar and I have no idea if that's a beg for a freebie or just her saying she's enjoying a specific thing.

@marvellegazelle, yes I get that, but what I mean is... even if things were always tagged, my question was 'would people still get irritated by them'? I'm guessing some would, because they're a 'brand', and not the person they 'followed from the beginning', which I don't think is such a big deal.

As far as disclosure, it's up to the company, I would assume, to tell them how often to disclose the ad. I agree, that disclosure is a huge rule that everyone should comply with. Having said that, if an IGer discloses ads on the things that are definitely the case, why judge if they aren't disclosing? They're probably not ads.

And, if SJ is eating a protein bar, if she was gifted a £2 protein bar, or if she could actually buy it herself, that's getting a bit too petty, no? I mean.

@marvellegazelle, see... that's an interesting point.. but. I do think when you try and make money off Instagram, you try and get a brand's attention. You may not agree with it, but there's nothing wrong with that. Why do they have to go further to tell all their followers 'hey guys! I'm going to tag zara kids because it works for my brand and I want some free stuff to take pictures of and maybe get some money, so heads up! I'm begging for a collaboration!' No. They don't owe it to anyone that.

*don't owe anyone that.

Giovanna Fletcher has posted today about a paid partnership with Avon

However her story yesterday showed no #ad (it was her with nail varnish and painted toes) (neither does today's square but presume as it's tagged paid partnership it's ok?)

Her stories today have @avonuk tagged in them, but no hastag. I thought they had to clearly state AD in the top corner now, according to ASA guidelines?

I run a business and our primary traffic is from Instagram shopping and I've got some brands noticing my stuff. Hell YES I'm going to tag them and hope that they collaborate with me on stuff because I make money, so do they, everyone wins. Why not? There's money to be made in social media, and if you want it, you find a way to get it.

It's really pretty incredible, when you think about it. There are such strict rules governing advertising in the media, guidelines which have been developed over several decades to protect the consumer.

Suddenly 'Influencers' come along and imagine themselves some sort of special case, as though they should be exempt. And anyone who queries this state of affairs is called a bully, or dismissed as jealous, or told not to follow the account if they don't like it

The level of delusion really is laughable!

@marvellegazelle most magazines nowadays ARE 75% ads. Have been for a while. Next time you look through Vogue or Cosmo, rip out all the pages that are ads. You'll have very little left.

runmummy

It was large capitals right across the the picture. How can you say it's not clear?
Maybe a darker font should be used to make it more stand out then?
Seems that they're marking it ad or gifted and it's still not enough

timetogetanewfence loads of magazines are practically ads indeed, especially the glossy type ones.
It's why I don't buy them, as there's barely any articles after you flick through them all, or decent content at all.
IG is just another platform - any that seem to be all ads, I skip past them.
Nothing wrong with ads, but it's tedious if that's all you are, whether IG or magazines.
A happy medium of good content and some ads is best to read, I find.

It's here... again... looks like they aren't overly proud of it to me!