#AD

[MintyT]

I don't know about you, but since the instamums posts I have really noticed the #AD on posts, and to be honest I had no idea I was so gullible. I loved the threads regards instamums and really think MN made a small change, well done us

Um, plagiarism? No, guys. Mamabearofone is aware of this and supports it being shared. Now what else is going on.

@timetogetanewfence And your proof of this is?

Mama bear hadn’t mentioned it it on her own page or regrammed it. She might support it in retrospect but c’mon, you think she was happy when she first saw that? Why else would her friend mention it? Much more likely mamabear is diplomatically not taking on a much bigger Instamum.

Completely disagree that discussing Natasha passing off someone else’s words as their own detracts from the original issues discussed here @jamoncrumpets It’s about transparency and complying with a code of ethics, exactly the issues at the nub of the #ad discussion.

And sorry, @FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends has made my point already. Almost plagiarised you then!

Just to clarify, the post MOD shared of NB doing something really important was not actually NB at all? But someone else who she didn't credit?
Why do that?

It's pretty insular to only care about issues that affect your own kids and families!

Jamie Oliver's school dinners campaign for example was about tackling the use of processed foods and the rise in childhood obesity.. should we say mind your own business Jamie?!

We have no idea how such issues will affect future generations, and social media and kids is a very interesting topic. Some people feel so opposed to it that they won't even share photos on locked down accounts - others publish intimate details of their kids everyday lives, names, birthdays, highs, lows etc. How will this impact then as they grow?

NB can stay sitting on her step. Hopefully, admiring her fancy Mulberry bag will take the sting out of it a bit.

@MediocrePenguin

I’m visualising NB putting up a new photo of her sitting on the steps every day during her sit-in, and in each new photo there’s a new designer handbag on the stairs alongside her.

@mediocrepenguin there is also bullying of children. I've had a cyber bullied teen and it was horrific. Perhaps as an adult the level would not have been so toxic but for a 13 yr old it was completely devastating. Teens who are desperate for social media may also not tell you what's going on to stop you from withdrawing it.
Whilst currently their children are young and can be cute and utilised, they can live in the bubble. But there's always the possibility that their peers will be 'jealous' or nasty and use their parents choices against them. One reason I assume many celebrities keep their children very private. It will affect how some of these children are viewed and you can't protect them forever.
My daughter's bullying started in full on her birthday, with death wishes and wishes of a horrible day. School were absolutely useless. I genuinely hope that none of these kids get targeted but I've taken steps to ensure my children have as little exposure as possible as if never underestimate the power of peers or cyber bullying.

And I think it's responsible and interesting to discuss these issues. NB has set herself up as a spokeswoman for mental health yet cannot bear to have her ethics questioned!!! Imagine a mental health professional mocking a client on instagram like she did with Asher.She's not a professional but she's selling herself as a spokes person without the accountability!

I’m visualising NB putting up a new photo of her sitting on the steps every day during her sit-in, and in each new photo there’s a new designer handbag on the stairs alongside her.

Get that girl some sponsored Anusol!

It's really telling that The Times didn't do a story on Simon Hooper. They needed to include the names and images of all four of Simon Hooper's daughters, because otherwise there really is no story.

Mamabearofone’s focus is also mental health btw, and I’m not sure if she still does but she used to work as a psychological researcher. So a genuine interest and some professional knowledge at least. Her account isn’t really my thing but she doesn’t do ads and seems a good egg.

It might be she agreed to the words being used but didn’t know they wouldn’t be credited.

Anyway, bad form.

@Mumofkids bloody hell that's awful! Your poor daughter.

I think the impact of social media on young people's mental health is a huge topic.

If you put your kids on it publicly from birth right through to their tweens it's sure to have a massive impact on them and by debating that you are causing other people to question themselves and make more informed choices.

I have no idea how I'd have navigated social media as a teen. It's hard enough as an adult!

@medicrepenguin I found her shaking on her bed having just received an Instagram group message of abuse, before she'd managed to compose herself to hide it from me. If you can believe it it all started because she's very slim...
my concern for these kids being used on acccounts is that they are not their parents, they do not have necessarily the ability to shrug off criticism (actually Clemmie's recent post indicates neither is she, and she's found herself very upset by comments on the internet) so how can they be so sure that their children will not bear the brunt of their choices? I can imagine other kids who may never get the chance to go to Disney world not seeing the bigger picture and thinking 'oh they are just advertising' but thinking 'so they got a free holiday' etc and whilst Clemmie seems to have confidence in her looks and appearance her children may not. You can't control these things.
My daughter is quite stunning and could model, but was picked on for these attributes and consequently has crippling self doubt and lack of confidence.
Of course the children on these accounts could be bullied anyway, could be completely unscathed there's nothing to indicate at this point otherwise, but it is very interesting that so many people in the public eye protect and hide their children whilst these make money from them and push them out there.

Natasha is sat on the steps waiting for Mumsnet to comment, she also appears to be waiting for anyone else to comment...only 16 comments from her 22k followers!
She has taken someone else’s campaign and claimed it as her own, if mumsnet are going to comment they should talk to the original instagrammer; mammabearofone who started it!

Honestly, some of them really do have super inflated opinions of themselves.

MN is a massive forum, there’s a mixture of everything here. But the positives by far outweigh the negatives.

This supposed ‘campaign’ by the instamums is an insult to some of the amazing groups on here that have really provided some amazing support and kindness to people in very dark times. You only have to go to the bereaved parents thread to see. Who do they think they are?

#yougotthis. #feckoff

This supposed ‘campaign’ by the instamums is an insult to some of the amazing groups on here that have really provided some amazing support and kindness to people in very dark times. You only have to go to the bereaved parents thread to see. Who do they think they are?

Agreed, the extent of MOD's delusion is almost funny

Agreed. It’s very easy to have a pop at AIBU which by its very name is set up to be quite adversarial - yeah you’re being unreasonable, nope, you’re definitely not. But it’s usually just a mix of differening opinions, with a very few or no post deletions.

There are many many many more threads which are set up to be supportive. The mental health board for example!! The stately home thread. All the antenatal threads. I met a great group of women on mine from nearly 10 years ago and we’re still in touch. The TTC threads, SN boards, the miscarriage threads, the bereavement threads as a PP said, etc etc.

Maybe Justine hasn't responded because she is deliberating on how to respond to unsubstantiated allegations that she is turning a blind eye to bullying on her platform. I think there is far more good than bad that comes out of MN, like a PP said, helping women deal with abusive relationships, support for addictions and other mental health issues, dealing with bf support, bereavement, difficult teens etc etc. I still don't understand what the supposed campaign is about TBH.

I think it's time for a "we love mumsnet, it's invaluable" thread. NB and the instamums are nothing compared to the thousands of women who like and have been helped and supported by mumsnet. And this will speak more volumes than anything Justine does or doesn't decide to say. The pandering of other mums to people further up the chain of instamums is pathetic and actually hasn't worked that well, only 11 posts of #dearmumsnet.

Great idea, @MrsJamin

Or hijacking the (conveniently ambiguous) #dearmumsnet hashtag to discuss all the positive things MN does

Actually that's not a good idea. #dearmumsnet thanks for making me realise it wasn't my fault I had PND.

NB has devalued her whole stance by brand hastagging on the 'sit in'
picture.

What campaign is the Mulberry handbag holding a sit in for?

#dearmumsnet thank you for making me realise that co-sleeping could be done safely, didn’t make me a bad mum and could help me cope with a baby that woke frequently.

#dearmumsnet thank you also for making me realise that I wasn’t doing anything wrong by following my instincts rather than the trendy baby routine gurus that were spouting bad advice when my baby was little

We need a #dearmumsnet thread. Wonder how may iterations of that there'd be! Many, many, many more than there were instamum threads, I'm sure

#dearmumsnet thank you making me feel less alone when I lost a baby at 28 weeks

#dearmumsnet thank you for the support and help I got when my DD was diagnosed with a chronic health condition

#dearmumsnet thank you for making me laugh on a daily basis

Feel free to garnish this thread

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/3241657-dearmumsnet