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Husband being selfish and strange?

126 replies

namechanger14 · 29/04/2018 02:34

Posting here partly for traffic, partly cos I don't know if iabu.

So dh and I have always enjoyed a good sex life and it was always mutually satisfying. BUT the last 3 weeks I've noticed little to no effort on his part other than to get himself off.
Every time it's been either no foreplay whatsoever or literally 30 seconds and then the same position every time (him face my back on our sides). It's lasted no more than 5 mins each time. Then he's just kind of kissed my shoulder, visited the bathroom and then gone to sleep! No cuddle, no love u, no attempt to help me finish, nothing. Tonight has been even worse as he didnt even initiate anything (he always says something to see if I'm up for it) he just lifted my leg up and positioned himself, not even checking to see if i was physically ready, finished, no kiss, just sat in bed next to me watching the tv and on his iPad.
I feel kind of used at best if I'm honest and I don't know what to do or say.

aibu to feel mad at him? Is sex not always mutually satisfying? He's my only sexual partner so I have nothing to base things off
Confused

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namechanger14 · 30/04/2018 02:41

Sorry x post. takes soon long to write a post.

I see some1 for cbt and I have councililing, but other than that it's just me, dh and dc.
Only my dad has anything to do with me from my family but he's not approachable.

I don't like talking about it cos I'm trying to be better (and people always make assumptions) but I was in a NC relationship before DH.

My mind can't compute that the man who got me to leave, built me back up the best he could and that I have loved and trusted for almost 10 years is a man who's abusing me, it goes against everything I know.

I think I just need to sleep, i feel really rough.

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leggere · 30/04/2018 02:48

Ok, that's a really good idea, you hardly slept last night. So sorry you're going through this, come back on thread when you're ready, if you can.Flowers x

wowsertrousers · 30/04/2018 02:53

But your instinct that what you described in your OP was 'strange' need not be at odds with your instinct that he's not abusing you. I'm not saying he definitely isn't abusive - i don't feel we have enough info to be able to form a valid opinion on that. But something strange going on and the possibility that he's not abusing you are in no way mutually exclusive!

I would say though that the fact that it's only been the last few weeks that things have been odd does seem to suggest that something out of the ordinary has happened (of whatever nature), rather than (as most others seems to be suggesting) a case of him having gaslighted or done a number on you the whole time.

gingergenius · 30/04/2018 03:45

Op I've just read the full thread and wanted to reassure you that you need to trust your own instincts. Whatever they might be.

You posted on here for a reason. I have a 'tell', too, and it's a shame that your oh has made you question your physical response but there is nothing your gp can do and as you say, this is more about communication than a physical symptom.

You've heard some harsh responses here. They may be right. They may not. Only you know your circumstances for sure. Your recent posts made you sound very down and that's not good, especially if you aren't feeling heard on here. Sometimes mn can miss the mark a bit so I wanted to reassure you that your comments and viewpoint ARE being listened to.

MrsGasManridesagain · 30/04/2018 09:22

OP hope you’re ok and managed to get some sleep.

AuntFidgetWonkhamStrongNajork · 30/04/2018 09:48

I hope I have, suddenly after almost 10 years, developed these contraction things and that's all it is, however unlikely that is now

Do neither of you think the contractions/spasms might be your body responding to him suddenly lifting your leg and sticking his cock in your dry vagina and having sex with your unresponsive body?

namechanger14 · 30/04/2018 10:08

Morning, managed some sleep. Dh didn't go to work this morning, (he's requested some emergency leave), which I'm kind of glad about as I massively overslept and was woken by dcs giving me a kiss before they went to school.
Feel better today.

@Auntfidget, no that's not the cause. Without tmi my body wasn't unresponsive (I didn't lie there like a sack of spuds he obviously would have stopped if I had) and dryness isn't something that occurs.

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BuntyII · 30/04/2018 10:15

Genuinely intrested to know what it is every1 thinks I should do? Should I phone the police and tell them he raped me and is now trying to gas light me? Should I go to the GP and tell her what happened so she can phone the police and get me examined? Should I just kick him out and deprive kids of their loving father because all any1 is doing is making me question everything and doubt my own mind/instincts.

I don't think you should do any of those things. I think you should both just calm down and stop being over dramatic. Talk to each other and agree that he's to stop being lazy and selfish in bed and tell him to stop being such a billy bullshitter about why. Then get on with your lives.

BettyBaggins · 30/04/2018 10:23

Do you want to tell us what else happened yesterday? It just feels like there is an important bit of info missing.

namechanger14 · 30/04/2018 10:36

@betty not really, it'll get turned around and twisted like everything else I've said and looking at it with less tired eyes I don't think it's relevant and even if it is there's nothing I can do about it at the moment

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leggere · 30/04/2018 13:31

Glad you managed some sleep and feeling better today, I was worried about you last night. Relationships/marriages are so difficult at times, sincerely hope you get things sorted with dh. Brew

PhaedrasChocolate · 30/04/2018 14:27

I really didn't mean to upset you yesterday, I just felt like something was wrong.

Fwiw, I don't think you're being abused, but I do think he's controlling you, and I think deep down you maybe know that.

I went through a similar thing at 40 years old, after 2 long term relationships, dc, and lots of other relationships in my life, I really should have known better, but I didn't. I ended up massively messed up and rocking in a corner after 3 months! I found the strength to end it after posting here and the amazing women being 'harsh' with me. Best decision I've ever made.

My point is, it's insidious. You don't know it's happening until you suddenly realise with little clues, like this.

I hope you're ok Flowers

Choose not to be a victim.

BettyBaggins · 30/04/2018 15:17

I understand namechanger, sometime it is difficult to get across on a thread whats going on, especially when intimate issues are involved. Look after yourself Flowers

kristophersmum2008 · 30/04/2018 18:33

stop blooming blaming yourself (not u that needs to see doctor) depression in men is common and blaming others is too it affects their sex drive itll affect u
im glad hes spoke (but hes put the blame on u ) go together to the doctor!!

hdh747 · 30/04/2018 20:40

It sounds to me like he's tired and/or depressed and got lazy. The vaginal spasms sound totally normal and happen for various reasons, only one of which is orgasm. The fact that those spasms are the only way he can gauge whether you orgasm sounds like there's a big lack of sexual communication between you both.

The fact that you felt used and couldn't voice it with him sounds like you have problems with some aspects of sexuality - whether because of problems yourself or within the relationship. I have no idea of whether he is gaslighting you or whatever, I just don't know enough about your relationship - it's way too easy to see one sentence, often not perfectly explained via the medium of internet, and extrapolate it into almost anything tbh.

Continue with the counselling, both alone and together. And keep talking to us if you want to. You will get answers you don't like, but most of us will try to understand and just consider it all food for thought - at the end of the day you are the one living it and if you have counsellors to help then you can consider, accept and reject what is said as you work it all out. Flowers

deadringer · 30/04/2018 21:06

Whether he thought you orgasmed or not, indeed whether you actually orgasmed or not is irrelevant imo. He moved your leg and penetrated you, came, then turned away without a word or a touch or a kiss, that really is not normal behavior. And it isn't normal for him, you said so yourself, so something is going on with him and he needs to talk to you about it.

namechanger14 · 30/04/2018 22:56

@hdh747, yes thank u. I think this is what was happening yesterday. I was typing what I thought was perfectly clear updates (never a good idea on 3-4 hours sleep) but it was being read differently and towards the end I just kept thinking to myself, "am I cracking up? That is NOT what I said or meant". It is so hard some times to communicate over the internet as they are just emotionless words, open to interruptation by the reader.

YES I do have on going issues with 'sexuality' if that's the right word. I have a much higher sex drive than dh however I have no confidence in the bedroom, so I won't ask if he's up for it, or try too hard to seduce him etc. I get myself so worked up about stupid shit, that I go with the flow as it were. There's a couple of things that I'm not able to experience with DH and dhs all 'I don't care, I don't need us to do xyz' etc but I have a massive issue with it because I want to be able to experience those things.

I don't mind talking about the things regarding my 'issues', I just find it hard as outside my dh I've never discussed details with 'non-professionals' as I find even just the edited version brings certain assumptions that frankly piss me off.
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@Phaedras, not at all. I was way too tired yesterday to think clearly and was sarcastic so it's me who should apologise as I know that can be construed as aggression.
He's honestly not controlling, I don't think he even knows how. There are only 2 things I have ever heard him say that could possibly be heard as controlling by an outside party, 1 was "I really don't like that top on u anymore", and in fairness when I caught a glimpse of myself in the shop window, I was horrified, I'd just lost alot of weight (3stone) and it was hanging off me and the 2nd was when we'd been living together about 4 months and he woke me up one afternoon, told me to get dress and dragged me to the gp surgery after I'd accused him of all sorts the night before, raised my hand to slap him and then ripped open some stitches.
xx

@deadringer, you right it is not normal and was totally out of character for him. He is a very touchy feely person (we both are) and it is very rare that we are within reaching distance and NOT touching in some way (ie holding hands, cuddling, even just legs or arms touching). Something is going on with him and I believe him when he says for some reason he is exhausted all the time. He has since admitted to me that he's experiencing some other symptoms as well, nothing really concerning but I really do think he probably has low levels of iron or b12, maybe both. He should hear back from the surgery tomorrow with results so we shall see. I've told him there's nothing wrong with saying "not right now, I'm knackered/got a headache" etc, whether that be to me OR to the dc, I understand he wants to play with them and chase them round the park and doesn't want to 'disappoint' me (I think he's worried I'm gunna start seeing him as an old man or something), but that the kids will survive having to wait a day or 2 for the park and I'll survive not having sex everyday but he can't carry on burning the candle at both ends and he might not survive it if he keeps trying to!

We are still going to go relationship therapy and I'm going to carry on with my help, he's going to do the RT with me and has said he will do solo therapy if the RT thinks he could benefit he thinks he'll be able to air his fears, frustrustrations, trust issues, etc and get insight into why he feels that way and how to manage those feelings without it eating him up, (he's a bottler).
Ive had to make a appointment with the GP for something tomorrow so will bring up these vag contractions/spasms/twitches/thingswithnoname and see what she says. Dh gonna come with but stay outside unless I need him to come in.

Anyway, sorry I am rambling again. I wonder if the doctor can sort verbal diahrrea lol.
xxx

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namechanger14 · 30/04/2018 23:08

Sorry @hdh747 forgot to say it's ONLY if we are in that certain position that he relies on that 'cue' as it's the only 'cue' that happens in that position, (i have enjoyed that position but not my favorite iykwim). In other positions there are other 'cues' as well, some obvious, some not so obvious.
I didn't mean he relies on that 'cue' everytime and can't tell if I climaxed at all.
Maybe we should throw that position in the bin except for lazy shags every once in a while.

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Whyarealltheusernamestaken · 01/05/2018 00:03

At the start of this thread it sounded horrendous. But after the drip feed of information it sounds more like he’s really in a shit position and is trying his best to please you. I hope your therapy works, and the joint therapy helps your relationship. You have issues to work out from prior to this relationship from the sound of things. Apologies if I am misreading, but it does sound like you love him and he loves and cares for you back and no abuse is present here

hdh747 · 01/05/2018 00:40

It sounds like you are both doing all the right things but of course they can take time.

I do hope he gets to the bottom of his health concerns and they aren't too serious. My hubby had a health problem recently, and because I have such a lot of health problems myself and a lot of worries he told me the bare minimum as he didn't want to worry me but of course I was worried, I just didn't know what about. It did get quite scary for a while but turned out not as bad as he feared, so I'm guessing (and only guessing) that your DH doesn't want to worry you till he knows if there's any reason to.

But sometimes, even when you are doing all the counselling etc you still need a bit of extra support sometimes, or just to vent. And if your message didn't come across quite as you wanted to start with - well communication can be like that sometimes, and maybe when we hammer away at getting our message across we understand it better ourselves too sometimes.

Ok - pass the anti-verbal-diahrrea pills - I have a feeling the GPs could write a lot of prescriptions for those! Hope your appointment goes well too.

GnotherGnu · 01/05/2018 00:53

I don't understand why you think you might have suddenly developed these vaginal spasms after ten years if your husband is telling you that it happens every time you have sex?

The fact that he is feeling them when you haven't orgasmed doesn't mean that you are suddenly having them spontaneously, it just means that he's always been mistaken in believing that they are solely associated with orgasm. .As people have said upthread, they're really quite common and definitely not limited to climaxing.

namechanger14 · 01/05/2018 01:06

@Whyareall, sorry didn't mean to drip feed (it's actually a pet hate of mine), I was hoping that id given enough info in my OP without going into the issues from before we got together, but apparently not. My bad, sorry.

Thank u for ur words, yes I do love him and i know he loves me.
x

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namechanger14 · 01/05/2018 19:03

Update...
So I went to the GP about my other issue, got that out the way and asked her about these contraction thingys, she asked me several questions and I told her what dh felt. It is NOT vaginal contractions, it is cervix spasms and it is NOT totally normal. Coupled with my history and what I was actually at the GP for originally (it was linked who knew), she is quite concerned. There's 4 different things it could be, none of them great, 1 really bad, but I've been referred for several tests to start a ruling out process.

DH got a phone call and his blood test has flagged up something. Nothing to worry about they said but his GP would like a quick chat before treating. Wouldn't say what it was over the phone (not allowed apparently) but they did say all his other results were normal. So he's gotta go in at 8.30 tomorrow morning as no need for an actual appointment just a 2 minute chat, so I'm assuming from previous experience that the GP just needs to give him a prescription but tell him somethings?

Anyway, also phoned my therapist today and long story short she's fitting me in for Thursday. She said we'll discuss couples therapy on Thursday but, if needed she won't be able to do it as it's a conflict of intrest. I do understand that but I'm kinda less happy about couple therapy now cos it will mean opening up to someone new and it took me ages to be comfortable with the woman I see at the moment.

xx

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PhaedrasChocolate · 01/05/2018 20:03

Blimey, where do you live that you can get a doctors appointment that quick? Mine are about 3 months in advance!

namechanger14 · 01/05/2018 20:27

@Phaedras I phoned the docs yesterday and they ask what the problem is so they can priorities appointments. I told them and their criteria meant I needed to be seen (for the other thing) within 48hrs. There's also 2 doctors surgeries that share the same car park. I was amazed when I joined them as my previous surgery (only 3 miles away, and same NHS trust) would only give out the 'within 48hrs' appointments if it was for a young child, elderly or for an adult a serious health issue. With my new surgery though, if u meet the 48 hrs criteria, it does mean u don't get a choice of when u go, who u see (except male or female), it might not even be at the surgery but 1 of 3 other health centres.
xx

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