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Stop Trump 13th July

135 replies

user1492877024 · 28/04/2018 19:12

Apologies if this has already been raised, I did do a quick search but couldn't find anything. Anyway, AIBU to ask if any of you will be attending this protest?

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augustusglupe · 29/04/2018 13:02

No I will not...but no doubt the snowflakes will be out in force 😴 meaning our already overstretched emergency services will have to be policing the whole thing!!
And he won’t give a fuck anyway Grin

40isnew50 · 29/04/2018 13:03

A bit hypocritical when Scotland has Nicola Sturgeon is my opinion, speaking as a Scot. I think people have forgotten what democracy is. He was voted into office and no amount of protesting will change his presidency. Same as we have to suffer having Sturgeon as FM. Unless I see something with my own eyes and hear it with my own ears then I tend not to believe it. All politicians have secrets and tell lies. I think it is appalling that people think it is ok to try to deny the President of the US into a free country regardless of their feelings about him. Sometimes you just need to suck it up!

counterpoint · 29/04/2018 13:04

Like every other politician, he has some good points and some bad points.

Certainly not enough of either to warrant so much attention from our tiny, isolated state.

Really, we have so many other things to protest about such as the real Brexit-unleashed problems that need to be solved and a lazy Mayor who should be thinking of sorting London' s high crime rate instead of gathering hate to protest about.

LadyWithLapdog · 29/04/2018 13:06

Good points to Trump? That's a new one from the appeasers.

WhalesOfYore · 29/04/2018 13:10

obachan

How these protest threads always go:

  1. Some far-left-wingers, the professionally offended, virtue-signallers, bunch of special snowflakes try to make witty lists because they have no other way of dealing with popular dissent from their virtue-signalling Grin
OhNotSoSaintMaria · 29/04/2018 13:14

I'd protest if i could get there. One reason for protesting is to make sure he, the media and his fan club knows that we dont approve of his policies/ideas, and that he is unwelcome and here only because he was invited by the govt, not because people love him here.

FleurDelacoeur · 29/04/2018 13:27

One reason for protesting is to make sure he, the media and his fan club knows that we dont approve of his policies/ideas, and that he is unwelcome and here only because he was invited by the govt, not because people love him here.

You really think that he gives a shiny shit that some British lefties don't like him? I think you're overestimating your importance here. By quite a bit.

Mumminmum · 29/04/2018 13:32

croprotationinthe13thcentury and FleurDelacoeur
Really. He won fairly and squarely and it wasn’t a Russian style election? Didn’t you read about the 300 Russian bots that had been flooding facebook with fake news, to incriminate Hillary Clinton and push the American people in direction of Trump? Haven’t you read about the investigation into Trump’s Russian connections? There is also talk about his campaign receiving money from undisclosed sources. This is fairly and squarely? Uhm, no. It so wasn't. It was CORRUPTION! Also several Trump voters tried to vote twice.

And totally BS when people say that if you didn't protest other leaders you shouldn't protest Trump. It is like saying that if you use a car, then there is no point in being environmentally friendly in other ways. That is troll logic, Erasmus Montanus logic, a fallacy: In other words: Total and utter nonsense.

Mumminmum · 29/04/2018 13:33

I can recommend the homepage for the magasine www.slate.com for more info about Donald Trump.

SheGotBetteDavisEyes · 29/04/2018 13:34

Some far-left-wingers, the professionally offended, virtue-signallers, bunch of special snowflakes try to make witty lists because they have no other way of dealing with popular dissent from their virtue-signalling

Regardless of the topic in question, I'd much rather see a witty list than yet another tired attempt at inane, juvenile name calling.

SheGotBetteDavisEyes · 29/04/2018 13:35

You really think that he gives a shiny shit that some British lefties don't like him?

That's not the point of protest. It's not just 'lefties' that are protesting.

WhalesOfYore · 29/04/2018 13:45

It's not just 'lefties' that are protesting.

I'd love to see the people protesting Trump from his right! Shock

SheGotBetteDavisEyes · 29/04/2018 13:53

I'd love to see the people protesting Trump from his right!

We're talking about UK protests on this thread. The protestors here are politically diverse.

flummoxedlummox · 29/04/2018 13:57

I think we should all blow raspberries and break wind at 11:00 am on the 13th July. A sort of trump at Trump if you like. Grin

Charolais · 29/04/2018 14:05

He is our democratically elected President and is doing a brilliant job as leader of the free world, i.e.: NK..

People just don’t a rat’s arse if he talked about grabbing pussy 12 years ago in a private conversation as a private citizen. We elected someone who will sort out despots and put American first, not someone to be our Pope.

SheGotBetteDavisEyes · 29/04/2018 14:12

People just don’t a rat’s arse if he talked about grabbing pussy 12 years ago in a private conversation as a private citizen

You might not care; millions of other Americans do care about this, and the other examples of his moral compass and ethical code.

Sexism, racism, hate-speech, misogyny etc. are very live issues to millions of voters.

UpsetMom1 · 29/04/2018 14:15

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TheFaerieQueene · 29/04/2018 14:22

I’m not sure history will agree that he was elected fairly.

He is a repugnant misogynist, racist vile excuse of a human. The day he is removed from office will be a good day.

claraschu · 29/04/2018 14:29

I will be there.

lljkk · 29/04/2018 14:53

To folk who say "There are more vile people / more important causes to protest about": Have you been out protesting those more worthy causes? Why not? Does your lived example mean nobody else is ever allowed to protest about anything?

Trump is thin-skinnned. If the UK protests are loud enough, he won't ignore them.

DT has sorted out precisely NOTHING with regard to Climate Change, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, Syria, Afghanistan, DRC, Mexican drug cartels, school shootings, White American police shooting black American people...

WhalesOfYore · 29/04/2018 15:22

Venezuela? What exactly is Trump supposed to do to 'sort out' the disaster socialism has inflicted on that oil-rich nation?

PaintedHorizons · 29/04/2018 18:54

Keep your virtue signalling and have a little respect for other people's different lives and views, maybe?

I do respect people's views and lives and don't particularly like Trump but I was not surprised he got elected. The people who hate him make it very clear they also hate the poor uneducated people he persuaded to vote for him.

I disagree with other people telling me I should demonstrate against Trump's visit while they choose not to boycott American Movies at the box office, still choose to eat McDonalds and won't consider shopping at Waitrose instead of Adsa. Doing anything that might be a bit of a pain - give up Facebook and NetFlix - "Oooh I couldn't", "Not buy Nike trainers? "No way!! I love them!" (and will be wearing them on the demo!!)

Not of course not - because who'd know that they were so very liberal then eh? And actually how many have made real attempts to change the way India treats women, (gang rape recently anyone?) , or China treats workers, or Turkey treats people who disagree with the government? ("Oh but it's so nice for holidays!!") Yet I don't see anything like the protests about that here. (And there are a thousand other causes as we know)

If you demonstrate - fine - do so. If you boycott or do charity work or whatever to make the world a better place - even better. But don't tell us about it as if you deserve a medal for being The Only One to Stand Up for All Things Bad - by having a jolly day out with your friends.

So it's not about respecting views - it's about not wanting to be told by hypocritical people who know FA about something - what I should do.

Not directing this at anyone personally as I don't know who knows anything about American politics and who doesn't, (you clearly do BetteDavies as you said), or what others may or may not do in their lives.

But those telling everyone what they are doing in this way is virtue signalling.

lljkk · 29/04/2018 19:17

I am arriving at conclusion that I don't care about the opinions of people who believe that "virtual signalling" is a problem worth getting het up about.

BringOnTheScience · 29/04/2018 19:20

I will be buying American Idiot that week. It's pointless and daft... but what the heck!

counterpoint · 29/04/2018 20:01

@PaintedHorizons - well said.