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To think entry requirements to be a teacher should be higher

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totteringlump · 26/04/2018 15:26

AIBU to think too many teachers (obviously not all) don’t have particularly good qualifications themselves and so struggle to teach the syllabus to the class? People are able to pass but not excel and these teachers often struggle to advise students about gaining entry to Oxbridge and other places plus about high paid careers.

If students don’t have this advice at home they cannot know.

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Blaablaablaa · 28/04/2018 15:53

And no need for the patronising "guidance professional" it is a profession and can be a very rewarding one at that

BoneyBackJefferson · 28/04/2018 15:53

Blaablaablaa

then maybe you can explain why so many "guidance professional"s do it?

BoneyBackJefferson · 28/04/2018 15:55

Its in quotes because many of them aren't as professional as they could be and dodge the bullet when it comes to the trickier questions and pupils.

Blaablaablaa · 28/04/2018 16:12

Probably because your school has decided to employ someone who isn't professionally qualified or accredited to deliver careers advice....

It also depends on what your school is asking or expecting that person to do. Are they allowing adequate time for guidance or are they only given the time for quick query information sessions or group sessions. You need at least 30mins for a full guidance session plus follow up but most schools don't cater for this.

There is an also an awful lot of young people who only hear what they want to meaning they will have been told of the competitive nature and asked about their grades but chose to ignore it and spoke to someone else hoping to get a different answer.

We really can't win.... apparently we're either dashing people's dreams by telling them they can't do something or we're not telling them the full story 🙄

BoneyBackJefferson · 28/04/2018 16:39

Sometimes telling the full story IS telling them that they are not suitable and its a pipe dream.

BlaaBlaaBlaa · 28/04/2018 16:41

And a good guidance professional will do that. There is no blanket approach. That’s why personalised guidance is in the gatsby Benchmarks

NCbecauseIdontwanttooutasaman · 28/04/2018 17:03

Academic attainment and intellectual ability are not directly related although they are often taken as one and the same. The ability to teach again is not directly related to either. I lecture at university as a guest lecturer. I've a 2:2 in a vaguely related subject but 20 years of professional experience and a depth and breadth of knowledge from reading around the subject for all that time. I wouldn't be allowed to teach the subject at school. There were both mediocre and brilliant teachers when I was a pupil and there always will be. I agree that lack of ambition by teachers for pupils is an issue in some schools (amongst others) but I don't think that's based on what class or subject of degree teacher the teacher got.

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