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To say YABU if you think Kate deserves no sympathy because 'she knew what she was getting into!'

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ChipperChapper · 23/04/2018 23:10

It sounds like the sort of people use to say (and often still do), if a younger mother dared complain if she was drained - All because 'she knew what she was getting into' when she decided to have a baby, and that 'she knew the dad probably wouldn't stick around, she knew babies aren't dolls'

^The above is no reflection of all or even most young mums! I am one.

Anyway, moving on... Isn't it quite tactless and a bit lacking in compassion to say "She knew what she was getting into!"

I don't know her personally, but Will, and her three children, are just that to her. Not Royal figures for show.

I understand she may be feeling a million dollars, though. I suffered with HG and felt like going to the Ritz after my DC's birth. Sadly, I neglected to pack a dress and was quite disappointed I was going home in leggings and a top Grin

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RedHelenB · 23/04/2018 23:13

But she did! She knew that having heirs to the throne would mean press interest.

CrispsForTea · 23/04/2018 23:15

I agree, OP! I hope she went home, kicked off her high heels and put her PJs on!

LoveInTokyo · 23/04/2018 23:17

It doesn’t really matter whether she knew what she was getting into or not. She and her husband and children are all just people at the end of the day.

OK so they have no money worries, but they also have no freedom. I would hate to be in their shoes.

Who cares if she had an army of stylists on hand to help her look good for the photo op? I would rather look like shit but have the space and privacy to recover from labour and meet my new son without the whole world looking at me.

SleepingStandingUp · 23/04/2018 23:18

What do you think she needs sympathy for?
Three kids under 5?
Royal babies?
The whole get a frock on for the photo?

She gets empathy for the latter, if she expresses struggling with the others she'd get empathy but I don't pity her, I don't feel sorrow for the awful and difficult life some propose she has because she did choose it, after a long period of thinking and opportunities to not do it. She knew she'd be expected to have two children and if she didn't want to, she could have left William a long time ago

blackteasplease · 23/04/2018 23:18

I'm not sure anyone even has the slightest idea what Kate thinks about it.

She may well think herself that she knew what she was getting in to and that the media interest was worth it for the life she has chosen.

SaucyJack · 23/04/2018 23:21

She looked quite chuffed with her lot in life earlier. I think she'd agre with me that you should save your sympathy for someone who needs it.

LoveInTokyo · 23/04/2018 23:22

I suppose it’s just as well for William that he found someone he loved who was prepared to marry him despite knowing what they were letting themselves in for and having so many opportunities to walk away, eh? Hmm

Homemenu1 · 23/04/2018 23:23

She may well think she’s the luckiest person alive,

She had three lovely children, a husband who clearly adores her. She will never worry about money ever again, can employ what ever help she needs to get through the day.
Her children will have a great education
She has a supportive family.

I’d swap with her tomorrow, but I don’t she’s want too.

Homemenu1 · 23/04/2018 23:23

Has

Jon66 · 23/04/2018 23:26

Has she ever said a negative word about her marriage, her husband, her children or her position?

DrTorres · 23/04/2018 23:28

I thought she looked delighted with life earlier. I don’t feel sorry for her.

I am unsure if Meghan truly understands what she’s getting into though. I guess time will tell.

MrsDylanBlue · 23/04/2018 23:29

I think she’s got it pretty balanced for her lot.

Very strict privacy (apart from days like today) and very close knit with her own family.

SabineUndine · 23/04/2018 23:30

I don’t think it’s any of our business. End of.

ChipperChapper · 23/04/2018 23:31

I think she looked delighted too.

But what I'm saying is, if she didn't and the truth was, she just wanted to be in pjs and go home... Then she does have my sympathies there too.

She looked a lot plumper this time around and I'm sure it's been noted but numerous others, that must be hard to hear people saying things like that, scrutinising you to the very core. She still looks amazing and beautiful though

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Homemenu1 · 23/04/2018 23:33

She looked a lot plumper this time around and I'm sure it's been noted but numerous others and you!

Frillyhorseyknickers · 23/04/2018 23:35

I think until someone has actually given birth, they can’t possibly comprehend how traumatic if must be to get your shit together within a matter of hours and stand in heels in front of the world’s press.

People could have told me I would have an entourage of hair and make up post partum and I’d have been thrilled - before I gave birth I had no fucking idea.

CheeseandGherkins · 23/04/2018 23:37

I feel sorry for the homeless people I see, the struggling people I see, my own husband for being disabled and unable to work so I'm his carer, my own father who is disabled and waiting for an op that is high risk and could kill him, you get the gist.

I'm happy with my lot and I'm positive for the future. I do not feel sorry for her though, why should I? She had a baby and stood outside for a very short period of time.

I've had all sorts of births, all fast, but very different. I don't expect pity for them. Never had stitches (except for the sections), but that doesn't mean they weren't traumatic.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 23/04/2018 23:37

My life is pretty wonderful.
I also know that I’m likely to feel like shit and sore after I give birth I’ve done it lots I’m quite well prepared for it.

I may still feel inclined cry and feel a fair bit of self pity when I go to the bog afterwards. But luckily I’m not going to have boards of people watching me requiring me to smile and be jolly right afterwards

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 23/04/2018 23:37

I agree. I highly doubt it crossed her mind at University that she'd have to stand with a newborn baby on hospital steps 2 minutes after giving birth, no doubt hoping she doesn't leak onto her dress. People are jealous twats

sockunicorn · 23/04/2018 23:39

I dont think she needs sympathy, she seems pretty happy. However I do think you can bite off more than you can chew. Maybe she got more than it seemed from the outside. But she seems happy with her lot. from the outside - no money or work worries, 3 beautiful children, a doting husband and loving family around her and the (majority of the) country adores her - im sure she is doing fine :).

Mightymucks · 23/04/2018 23:44

Kate and William have a really good deal with the UK press and they know it. They release rare photos with their children and do even rarer photocalls. In turn their children are entirely left alone to get on with their childhoods. This compares to Harry and William having photographers hiring the neighbouring gardens to their school and hanging out of the trees to photograph them and constant paparazzi following every moment they were with their mother. K&W are rarely papped here, partly because the press are restrained and partly because they live very private boring lives.

They still have trouble abroad sometimes (topless pics of Kate in France) but they aggressively litigate against that too.

They know full well that they’re actually getting a pretty reasonable exchange given that the public has a legitimate interest in their family.

I really wouldn’t worry too much about them. If Kate wanted to stay in for a week or leave without being seen she would. It’s a new tradition being on the steps of the Lindo and she’s under no obligation to do it.

Thebirthdayparty · 23/04/2018 23:48

I wonder if she can go home and slip into her pjs. Wouldn't she have callers to see the baby? She can hardly say to the Queen 'not today' :)

The only thing I felt remotely sorry for her about is that she was under pressure to wear high heels today.

Other than that, she is back home having people run around after her and for her while she gets to sit down and do nothing other than cuddle her baby.

No doubt next time we see her she will be back in size eight as a guest at the wedding.

biscuitraider · 24/04/2018 00:00

The pair of them appear to want their cake and eat it. Millions off the taxpayer in exchange for what? a few boring old photo calls and royal engagements which they appear to begrudge. What a load of mugs we are. They're no better than us, and yet we treat them with such awe and reverence. Totally crazy.

cadburyegg · 24/04/2018 00:08

What does she need sympathy / compassion for?

BertrandRussell · 24/04/2018 00:15

“ she didn't and the truth was, she just wanted to be in pjs and go home.”

Her royal duties delayed this by all of 7 minutes. Worth it, I reckon!

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