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Reporting a friend for Ben fraud

127 replies

username1423 · 22/04/2018 16:03

I have been thinking about it a long long time. I feel sick reporting her but at the same time sick of her dishonesty.
She is claiming benefits for her young son and a council place. She’s openly told me she gets a lot from government.

He on the other hand has a lot of money and is using her flat as a place to stay as he still lives with his mum and dad.
I didn’t report because she’s had a rough time and she kept telling me he’d use his money to pay for a place for them all soon.

However, she’s now been with this guy for about 3 years and he has a lot of money and is very flashy and open about it. Her ds even has a car seat in the back of his new Porsche sports car.
Im torn as a friend as I think she deserves to have an ok time as she’s had a rough time in last few years with ds absent dad but now she could be with this guy and living with him and working but she’s choosing to keep council place as in her words ‘she’d rather put the money on designer clothes and champagne’
Aibu to report her or should I just stay out of it. I feel like I can’t be her friend and meeting up with her is awful as recently she’s been buying things on the bf credit card and then selling them to me to get cash and I only found out she was doing it through another friend and I told her I wasn’t comfortable as the bf thought my f has bought the stuff for me as a present and doesn’t know she’s been selling me the items so when I see him I don’t say thanks and he’s told me he thinks I’m rude not saying thanks for what my friend got me etc, I’ve never told him.
She’s been so dishonest with me I feel like it’s time to report now because it’s getting way out of hand,I recently watched her pay £1k for a designer dress and then go back to her council place where he’s always there!
But I don’t want to be a nasty person!

OP posts:
HighwayDragon1 · 22/04/2018 16:06

If they're not living together - this means all his bank/driving license is at another residence and he's not on the council tax bill they're not doing anything wrong.

strongerthan · 22/04/2018 16:07

If he doesn't live with her. Your OP states lives with his parents, she is doing nothing wrong.

You sound jealous

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user764329056 · 22/04/2018 16:08

Leave it alone, why get over-involved?

Springhun · 22/04/2018 16:09

AS the other poster said, she’s not doing anything wrong if he’s technically not living there.

This kind of thing happens all the time, doesn’t make it right but the system is open to abuse.

As for reporting her, the authorities probably couldn’t do anything if he isn’t living there, and if she finds out she will probably realise it was you. You have to think about how how much you value the friendship

ZX81user · 22/04/2018 16:10

he still lives with his mum and dad.

=no fraud!

username1423 · 22/04/2018 16:12

I meant he lives at her place now but says he lives with his mum and dad still.
But this is what I was asking and am happy to be told I’m awful!

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DancingLedge · 22/04/2018 16:12
Hmm
TaliZorahVasNormandy · 22/04/2018 16:12

If he's staying there over night, majority of the week, then he could be judged to be living there.

youngnomore · 22/04/2018 16:14

Is this what people do now ? Unless there is abuse of some kind why report? It’s non of your business. There could be a lot more background info that she doesn’t tell you
About. Leave it alone.

SelkieUnderLand · 22/04/2018 16:14

I would stay out of it.
I agree that it is couples who defraud the system in this regard, but the fact that he swings by occasionally doesn't mean that she can rely on him.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 22/04/2018 16:14

I'm torn as "I think" she deserves to have an okay time.

That's very noble and kind of you.Hmm

username1423 · 22/04/2018 16:15

I’m not jealous otherwise I wouldn’t wait 3 years to say anything. It’s just that I have other friends on waiting lists for council houses and when I ask why they can’t move into somewhere private together she says why would she. So I feel that’s not ok and also don’t like her then lying to me.
But happy for opinions!

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croprotationinthe13thcentury · 22/04/2018 16:16

Not really a friend is she Op?

DancingLedge · 22/04/2018 16:16

So he has a Porsche, buys her 1k designer dresses, and champagne, but has not had a place of his own to live, and now stays in her council flat.
So that she can buy champagne with her benefits? Really??

hotstepper4 · 22/04/2018 16:17

Surprised at how many people are in support of ops friend. I think her behaviour is awful and needs reporting, it's dishonesty like this that gives the whole system a bad name.

Op I don't think I could report a friend but I would be giving her a wide berth.

username1423 · 22/04/2018 16:19

Ok so it looks like iabu and that’s why I posted!
Yes she’s on benefits and regularly showing off about how much money she spends. However, as some pp have said perhaps there’s other reasons she can’t officially move in with the bf that I don’t know about.

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LadyPenelopeCantDance · 22/04/2018 16:20

Agree with hotstepper. She’s defrauding the system and should be reported.

PinkyBlunder · 22/04/2018 16:24

She’s not actually defrauding the system though. He’s the one with the money and she isn’t. They don’t venture live together. Why should she live off of his money? I take it they’re not married?

pinkoneblueone · 22/04/2018 16:25

I'm with hotstepper on this

PinkyBlunder · 22/04/2018 16:25

They don’t even live together that should read Hmm

stitchglitched · 22/04/2018 16:28

You think a single parent should give up her secure affordable tenancy because she is dating someone wealthy so should rent privately? And what happens if they break up?

specialsubject · 22/04/2018 16:29

sounds like the proverbial adult bargain. she gets cash and flash, and it is obvious what he gets.

she is playing the system but thats a hole in the system.

username1423 · 22/04/2018 16:32

They do live together and sorry I meant he still says he lives with his mum and dad. But he stays there 7 nights a week and gives her a monthly allowance in cash which she regularly shows me. He pays for all her car and phone etc. Ie she’s also got brand new sports car.
I am not jealous she’s had this for 3 years now but like I say she kept saying they were going to move in together and I recently asked her if they were still planning to and she told me she’d rather spend the money on other things like clothes. I don’t think she meant her benefits I think she means his money btw. Ie if he rented they wouldn’t have money for designer clothes. I don’t know what she spends her benefits on as I don’t think she needs the money anymore.

Sorry I don’t think it’s ok to have a council flat and live this way but I do not want to report my friend and wanted to see if I’m wrong here. A lot of people saying I am and I am listening!

OP posts:
Jengnr · 22/04/2018 16:32

I wouldn’t bother reporting her tbh but she sounds pretty awful so I wouldn’t be her mate either.

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