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To be moody about this

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HoarseMackerel · 22/04/2018 13:43

My adult son has his own place.
I brought both my children up on my own an we're close but I'm also careful to make sure I am not an annoying mother who calls and texts too much.
I pop in once a week, with him letting me know which day as he has early and late finishes and if convenient.
Sometimes, if he's not sure of his hours, I'll say to text when he knows.
Guaranteed, I won't hear from him. I used to text to remind him but stopped after a while as I felt I was chasing. We make plans for some weekends but I'm never quite sure if he will be there on time or will just generally drag his heels or try and get me to pick him up, even if it's a 20 mile round trip in the wrong direction from where we're going, even though we agreed he'd come on the train and meet at the station. It doesn't cost anymore for the forward journey for a number of destinations, so no loss to him.
Just to mention, I've done everything for my children. Helped and supported them, put them first and always say how proud I am.
My daughter was a victim of a serious crime and even though at times, I've wanted to be a panicky, over protective mother, I've gritted my teeth and made sure I have let them live their lives.
Thursday we went out for a meal (no negotiation over turning up as it was my daughter's birthday), had a lovely time.
He said he'd come over today as he knew my daughter was away but he said he would call/text before to make final plans. We had something in mind.
No call or text. I called last night. No answer. I called this morning. He eventually called me back and said he had stuff to do and I could come to him later if I wanted to. He knows I'm coming over later anyway as I'm meeting friends. So we've gone from day out to come over to me much later as you're around anyway (I'd already told him I would drop him home).
It's every single time! He messes me about, doesn't reply, doesn't answer his phone and if he does call me back, it's to mess me about some more.
His father hasn't bothered with either of the children for years and I know that they deserve better but he's got better, he's got me!
I was angry this morning at yet another let down. I went out for a walk and thought I'll see how I feel and now I feel really down and upset at this happening again.
I should probably give him a taste of his own medicine but with the dismal way his father treated him, I don't like the thought of doing this. A young adult should be able to rely on their mother but he's pushing all my buttons!

OP posts:
PookieDo · 23/04/2018 15:30

You seem more interested in what we think of you than your son. After all you are picking our comments apart but as far as I know you still haven’t asked him why he is doing this? Why invest all this energy into things being ‘wrong’ but have been letting this slide for 18 months?

I did come on here and give my own point of view (apols for having one) and my POV is also that I would prefer a direct parent than one that tiptoes around me dropping follow up texts on me. I’m trying to be direct with my children as I have found my mother (who could be similar age to you) is hung up on the idea that being honest is rude. So she will try to make plans or confirmations with me in a fashion that isn’t direct enough and confusing, I know perfectly well she cannot handle rejection or criticism so I too am tiptoeing around her wit her my response, and this results in a weird non honest dynamic. Now you have got yourself into a position where you have let it slide so long you are angry. Just clear the air with him and both agree to be more honest. If you would rather he tell you he can’t be bothered - and you will not react badly, then tell him this

PookieDo · 23/04/2018 15:34

My internet has been playing up so my post posted after your update

Glad talking to him worked out for you and this is finally over!

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FrogsAreMean · 23/04/2018 16:09

If I was the OP's son or daughter I would be thoroughly mortified and embarrassed by her behaviour on this thread.
Thank fuck I am not and your children have my deepest sympathy.

Essexmummy88 · 23/04/2018 16:20

“Harping old hags” I’m about two decades younger than you love.

Essexmummy88 · 23/04/2018 16:21

God help your sons future wife, you will be the MIL from hell

aaarrrggghhhh · 23/04/2018 16:31

"I reiterated the fact that he doesn't have to invite/include me out of duty and he said not to be so silly as I'm a lovely mum.
If he didn't mean any of that, then he was silly to say it, so I'll take it at face value."

But surely you can see that you manipulated him into saying this??

If you really meant that you don't want to be a mother who is needy of her children then you wouldn't have had this god almighty tantrum.

But these are wasted words as I suspect that you are somewhat on the narcissistic spectrum...I really do encourage you to see if you are able to think about other perspectives on this.

Nikephorus · 23/04/2018 16:57

But surely you can see that you manipulated him into saying this??
Sorry but I agree with this ^^. My mum is good at playing the hurt card and as I feel guilty I end up feeling obliged to placate her a bit (not so much since joining MN!).
I wonder if his GF has told him that he needed to grovel because otherwise you'll be playing hurt & he's gone along with it rather than her actually agreeing with you? I could be wrong. Regardless of whether he means it, take a step back and give him some space to live his life. Like a PP said, he'll be more enthusiastic to meet up then and if it's really laziness / thoughtlessness on his part then it might be the prompt he needs.

Motoko · 23/04/2018 17:41

I agree. He's hardly going to admit arranging all these things out of a sense of duty. His reply was the only possible one to give if he didn't want to hurt you, and he probably does think you're a lovely mum, but just doesn't want so much contact.

TrollTheRespawnJeremy · 23/04/2018 18:09

So being rude and a bit obnoxious is a genetic trait...

margotsdevil · 23/04/2018 18:24

Am I the only one less than surprised that the poor son has suddenly seen the light and acknowledged his faults? Hmm

Yogafailure · 23/04/2018 18:29

I recycled nothing OP, I read your posts and how you come across to all these nameless faceless posters whose opinion you asked for when you started this bloody thread and I stated that wouldn't want to be your child.

Still of the same opinion. That's my opinion, but you don't care about that only enough to reply personally to me, I'm touched Luckily I have 3dc who I don't have these issues with.

Beats me why you bothered to post in AIBU Hmm

Yogafailure · 23/04/2018 18:30

@margotsdevil no, you're not....

SomeKnobend · 23/04/2018 18:43

Before he launched into what the issues were, I reminded him of...
I repeated a number of times...
I then talked him through the...
I reiterated the fact that...

So you interrupted him before he even got started to have a go at him and then you went on and on, and then you let him say what he rang up for and then you went on and on again? And you wouldn't say you were hard work or overbearing at all? Righto.

margotsdevil · 23/04/2018 18:45

@Yogafailure right now I'm more glad I'm not the girlfriend than anything else... that would be an interesting MIL post...

Graphista · 23/04/2018 19:33

I don't believe a word of that update.

Feel very sorry for both your DC. Even after a nights sleep and time to calm down the vitriol directed at posters is truly shocking!

PookieDo · 23/04/2018 19:33

It is like anything in life, the way you pose a question determines a human response.

‘Why do you do this all the time?’ is a very open question (although the disadvantage is that it could be taken aggressively)

‘Don’t feel obliged to do that’ is a closed statement that prompts someone in an automatic response to grovel.

At work I see this happen a lot, if I allow people to explain by asking a simple question ‘why wasn’t this completed?’ I will get something more honest, but if I give them a closed type statement like ‘this should have been completed yesterday’ they will say what I want to hear, either out of shame, guilt or embarrassment

IHATEPeppaPig · 23/04/2018 19:46

This thread has made me truly appreciate my MIL (and she really pisses me off). OP, just wow.

MatildaTheCat · 23/04/2018 19:47

OP, although I find your style here somewhat abrasive, I do get you. My young adult son is continually flaking out on arrangements whether instigated by me or him. It drives me nuts.

I’ve told him it makes him unreliable and he knows it and is always apologetic but it still happens regularly. Of course if he wants a favour I’m expected to jump to it and am only slowly getting better at doing things in my own time.

Sometimes I think he’s being pulled in two directions as he has a fairly high maintenance gf but he’s also quite disorganised. I try not to let it annoy me too much and hope he will grow up at some stage.

He frequently pops by so it’s not that he doesn’t want to see us, it’s just a massive difficulty with sticking to arrangements.

KeepServingTheDrinks · 23/04/2018 22:59

I'm glad you've had a 'conclusion' you find satisfactory, OP.

And now this thread is done, here's a tip for you.... I wouldn't start another thread in AIBU if I were you, as people generally start posts on here looking for advice and opinions. You might find it more satisfactory in Chat.

lhastingsmakeup · 24/04/2018 18:50

You sound beyond overbearing!

You need to give him space, ie not bombard with calls/texts or expect frequent outings. Remember as a young person, your plans change all the time. It’s perfectly plausible that he stayed late at work, had his friends/girlfriend come over last minute, had a last minute invitation out etc. You’re getting frustrated because it seems like your son is your only aspect of a social life - and that’s not fair. Have you ever considered that his ‘invites’ to you are just done out if politeness/courtesy, as in he feels pressured by you to spend time with you but it’s not something he wants to do to that constant extent?

Quite frankly you need to loosen up and be more flexible. If he flakes on plans, so what? Do something else. Don’t clear your calendar for him in case plans fall through. Just go with the flow.

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