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Poor Stephen Lawrence

136 replies

Merryoldgoat · 17/04/2018 23:54

I’m watching the Stephen Lawrence documentary. I’m only about half an hour in and I can’t bear it.

I just think about my boys upstairs and can’t imagine how his parents and his friend must feel.

It’s just so awful.

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Queenoftheblitz · 29/04/2018 11:54

Lee Rigby's murder was not racist. If he'd been a black soldier those two bastards would have killed him - they both admitted to planning to kill a soldier.

MsGameandWatching · 29/04/2018 12:13

Cried my eyes out at it. The quiet strength and dignity of his mother over all those years is utterly humbling. That poor boy and lovely "Clive" who finally helped them get their justice.

Tinycitrus · 29/04/2018 12:57

BNP headquarters was in Welling not Eltham.

Yes I know but they targeted the large council estates in Eltham. I remember the leaflets coming through the door which was all about pensioners, ww2 and immigration - not unlike UKIP.

I remember CJ Rickard as well - although his family did get justice - small consolation though Sad

Jamie Robe was another one which required major intervention to get witnesses to come forward. I think the local mp intervened in the end and a witness protection programme was set up. It shows the measures can be put in place to get evidence - but thus did not happen in the early years of the Lawrence case.

Conspiracy or cock up? I don’t know.

SunwheretheFareyou · 30/04/2018 12:33

Clove driscoll seems to be the only police man in the the whole sorry awful saga who actually behaved as I used to naively think all police would act after suspected murder.
That man although merely doing his job, what a hero. And yet he was mysteriously pulled 📴 the pedophile ring case in lambeth?
I think we the public need to know which coppers were bent in Stephens time!! 1⃣ Seems to be living it up with a bar in Spain Angry
Appalling comments by one policeman saying doreen was putting it on. What's wrong with these people!!

The other comments that made me think rage was one of suspects mothers claiming her son wasn't violent, saying the stabbings and knife on tape were merely... Play acting Angry disgusting.

SaltireSaltire · 30/04/2018 13:16

Yes - some breathtaking comments by some crass amoral individuals on the programme. I have to believe the majority of us recognise these racist murdering thugs and their accomplices for what they are.

JediJim · 30/04/2018 16:35

I used to be in the Army. We were all first aid trained, we did a lot of first on scene training. Checking for a pulse, stopping a bleed, basic stuff really.
Why didn’t the Police Officer first on scene do more for fuck sake? Atleast attempt to revive Stephen, comfort him. Surely that police officer neglected their duties?
I’d does feel that Duwayne Brooke’s was also a bit of a forgotten victim too. No disrespect to him or Doreen Lawrence but , so sad that they never really talked about that night since. Did she partly blame him for Stephens death?

ReginaBlitzkreig · 30/04/2018 16:39

"All the focus was on the race aspect - nothing much on the Clifford Norris aspect, why after 25 years is his links coming out now?"

It has been strongly suspected from the outset, though not published until recently. I was told about it by a journalist contact not long after the murder took place.

Queenoftheblitz · 30/04/2018 16:40

Jediji. I too wonder why Doreen ans Dwayne didn't talk. Neither seem to want to go into that.
I admire Peter Francis who has waived his anonamity to talk about going undercover to "get dirt" on the Lawrence family.

NotAgainYoda · 30/04/2018 19:30

Jedi

I think from what was said that for years afterwards she was told/believed he ran away from Stephen and didn't realise exactly what had happened until the last trial. I also think that he was so traumatised that speaking frankly about it would have been hard, especially if he blamed himself (wrongly). Poor, poor man. He was the sage one of mine is now

IdentifiesAsMiddleAged · 30/04/2018 19:34

age, not sage

Queenoftheblitz · 30/04/2018 19:34

I think from what was said that for years afterwards she was told/believed he ran away from Stephen and didn't realise exactly what had happened until the last trial. I also think that he was so traumatised that speaking frankly about it would have been hard, especially if he blamed himself (wrongly). Poor, poor man. He was the sage one of mine is now

I heard this but I would have thought Doreen and Neville would want a face to face with him, especially before their private prosecution.

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