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We stand at a tipping point: do we fire up the popcorn maker or start digging a fallout shelter in the garden? (Trump cont)

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boatyardblues · 10/04/2018 22:01

Old thread here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3207431-When-a-nation-s-children-marched-and-their-President-ignored-them-Trump-cont

I’m all out of inspiration for the rest of this opening post. Send the St Bernard with the brandy please.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/04/2018 09:36

I think it might be because I misremembered and there weren't actually any Blackwater skirmishes in Syria Blush. I'd like to officially play my Jeff Sessions card and state that "I did not recall".

Prince hasn't got the memo re: getting into new business deals

U.S. Seeks Arab Force and Funding for Syria
Under plan, troops would replace American military contingent after ISIS defeat and help secure country’s north; proposal faces challenges

www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-seeks-arab-force-and-funding-for-syria-1523927888

The Trump administration is seeking to assemble an Arab force to replace the U.S. military contingent in Syria and help stabilize the northeastern part of the country after the defeat of Islamic State, U.S. officials said.

John Bolton, President Donald Trump’s new national security adviser, recently called Abbas Kamel, Egypt’s acting intelligence chief, to see if Cairo would contribute to the effort, officials said.

The initiative comes as the administration has asked Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates to contribute billions of dollars to help restore northern Syria. It wants Arab nations to send troops as well, officials said.

[...]The mission of the regional force would be to work with the local Kurdish and Arab fighters the U.S. has been supporting to ensure Islamic State cannot make a comeback and preclude Iranian-backed forces from moving into former Islamic State territory, U.S. officials say.

The idea also has caught the attention of Erik Prince, the private businessman who founded Blackwater USA and who has helped the U.A.E. and Somalia set up private security forces.

Mr. Prince said Monday that he has been informally contacted by Arab officials about the prospect of building a force in Syria but that he was waiting to see what Mr. Trump would do.

PerkingFaintly · 21/04/2018 09:36

Erik Prince is trying to get involved with Libya and migrant control. Poor souls.

His lawyer is Victoria Toensing. Which is a familiar name.Grin

PerkingFaintly · 21/04/2018 09:42

Oh no, and yours is from April this year. As you say, nasty little sod is still at it.

(OK, you didn't put it quite like that!)

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/04/2018 09:47

Happily co-signed Grin

Lweji · 21/04/2018 10:15

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said Saturday that "under the proven condition of complete nuclear weapons, we no longer need any nuclear tests, mid-range and intercontinental ballistic rocket tests, and that the nuclear test site in northern area has also completed its mission," as quoted by the state-run KCNA news agency.
The announcement appears to signify a remarkable change in policy for Kim, following a relentless pursuit of nuclear and ballistic weapons as a means to ensure his regime's survival

Surely what he said was that he's happy with his nuclear capabilities. That he's completed the development programme.

Although, it doesn't seem believable to me and it's a good think he's not conducting any more tests.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/04/2018 10:42

You might find this thread interesting lweji

Melissa Hanham
@mhanham
The commitment to end nuclear testing,shut down Punggye-ri, and end ICBM test is a remarkable pledge, but there are a few notes 2/

mobile.twitter.com/mhanham/status/987457319268179969

Lweji · 21/04/2018 12:09

@PainInTheEar

Yes very interesting. Thanks

Lweji · 21/04/2018 12:19

Meanwhile, a blast from the past: Randy Rainbow and Michael "Says Who" Cohen.

I can imagine it being his catch phrase in court too.

ohmymimi · 21/04/2018 13:40

He's had a lie-in, but he's up now, tweeting tosh at NYT and Haberman. What a ginormous tit he is.
mobile.twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/987669154550476800

lionheart · 21/04/2018 13:45

He is hoping he can persuade everyone that he has found a loophole:

Donald J. Trump

Verified account

@realDonaldTrump

James Comey illegally leaked classified documents to the press in order to generate a Special Council? Therefore, the Special Council was established based on an illegal act? Really, does everybody know what that means?

ohmymimi · 21/04/2018 14:21

This was got the ginormous tit's knickers in a twist up his ginormous bum.
www.nytimes.com/2018/04/20/us/politics/trump-michael-cohen.html

ohmymimi · 21/04/2018 14:30

lion, maybe the loophole is there is no Special Council. Someone one should counsel him on that .Tit. (Him, not youGrin.)
Can you tell I'm short of temper today?

cozietoesie · 21/04/2018 14:58

Ouch, mimi. Grin

(But look on the bright side - at least you can tell he wrote it himself. Wink)

AcrossthePond55 · 21/04/2018 15:20

Most of his tweets make me snort and think 'verbal diarrhea'. But when he tweets something like the above, I admit I 'clutch' and think "he's trying to set up grounds for firing Mueller". DH thinks he's 'testing the waters' to see if people will fall for that reasoning.

I do think he's panicking, though. And we all know that panicky people often make mistakes or ill thought out statements. Hopefully.

Did anyone see Rachel and the parallels she drew between the lawsuit filed by the DNC again the RNC over the Watergate break-in vs the recent lawsuit filed by the DNC against Trump Campaign, Russia, and Wikileaks? Very interesting and apparently very strategic.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/04/2018 15:24

I saw and admired! Let’s hope it ends the same way

AcrossthePond55 · 21/04/2018 15:24

For those of you who didn't see or don't get Rachel

www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/dnc-files-lawsuit-against-trump-camp-others-over-2016-hack-1216066115728?v=b

AcrossthePond55 · 21/04/2018 15:25

Amen, Pain

Perihelion · 21/04/2018 16:16

The cynic in me thinks Trump will only come to Scotland to boost PR for his golf courses, seeing as the Open is being played at Carnoustie the following week.

Lweji · 21/04/2018 16:19

I can't possibly think how his presence could boost PR for his golf courses in Scotland, although he might think so.

lionheart · 21/04/2018 16:20

I think he's getting more panicked.

time.com/5249233/newnan-georgia-protests/?utm_campaign=time&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=time_socialflow_twitter

'The city of Newnan, Ga., is steeling itself for a possible clash between neo-Nazi demonstrators and counter-protesters on Saturday.'

TheNorthWestPawsage · 21/04/2018 17:05

Trump skips Barbara Bush’s funeral “out of respect.” Goes golfing instead.
twitter.com/nycjim/status/987722970197045249?s=21

TheNorthWestPawsage · 21/04/2018 17:11

Meanwhile somebody else with the name Trump does know how to behave.

. @FLOTUS personally invited George Hannie, former White House maitre d, and Buddy Carter, current White House usher both of whom worked for and adored Barbara Bush to join her on the flight to Houston so the two could attend today's memorial.

@FLOTUS has arrived to #BarbaraBush memorial service, seated next to Barack Obama.

Respectfully, I take issue with the phrase "representing her husband." @FLOTUS announced almost two days before @realDonaldTrump that she would attend the memorial because she wished to pay her respects in person. Trump did not "send" her, she often acts independently of him.

twitter.com/katebennett_dc/status/987724257290485760?s=21

lionheart · 21/04/2018 17:31
Smile

www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/04/comey-memos-credible/558611/?utm_source=twb

'One feature of the truth is that it doesn’t change much. A lie is hard to sustain. The details may change in each retelling because the liar is not actually remembering the events, but instead remembering the telling of the events. The truth, by contrast, is sticky. Consistency is not the only hallmark of truth—some people’s memories are better than other people’s memories, to be sure—but there’s a reason that inconsistency tends to discredit a witness.'

TheNorthWestPawsage · 21/04/2018 17:46

On the NY subway (apparently)

Call them ! It's a recording. "Press 3 if you're the President", HA! And you can download the poster for free
twitter.com/apfel_sarah/status/987501497838657536?s=21

We stand at a tipping point: do we fire up the popcorn maker or start digging a fallout shelter in the garden? (Trump cont)