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We stand at a tipping point: do we fire up the popcorn maker or start digging a fallout shelter in the garden? (Trump cont)

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boatyardblues · 10/04/2018 22:01

Old thread here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3207431-When-a-nation-s-children-marched-and-their-President-ignored-them-Trump-cont

I’m all out of inspiration for the rest of this opening post. Send the St Bernard with the brandy please.

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lionheart · 10/04/2018 23:27

I like point four. Smile

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Five early morning thoughts on the situation:

First, this warrant did not issue just on probable cause. There is no wayno sliver of a chance of a waythat the SDNY went to a magistrate for a search warrant against the lawyer for the President of the United States without much more than probable cause.

You can thus assume there was A LOT of evidence in that warrant application. You can also assume the magistrate in question reviewed it carefully. In other words, you can assume that the evidence more than amply supports the action taken yesterday.

Second, all of that evidence is the evidence prosecutors had before they collected anything yesterday. In other words, you can assume that Michael Cohen has a very serious legal problem on his hands.

Third, it is not good for a client when his lawyer is the subject of a search warrant involving matters concerning the services that lawyer provided to him.

Fourth, really not good.

Fifth, the President's angry comments to the press yesterday and tweets today suggest that he perceives the ring as closing around him. I don't do predictions but I do think it's interesting that he perceives it that way.

That's all I got.

cozietoesie · 10/04/2018 23:28

Cohen's lawyer?? (The lawyers are lawyering up? )

boatyardblues · 10/04/2018 23:29

Lion and (Senator) Whitehouse sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G... (reference to credit scene on the last thread)

We need a picture in order to assess the merit of your judgement in this matter.

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GingerIvy · 10/04/2018 23:31

Bunker sounds like a good idea.

sleepyjane · 10/04/2018 23:31

Hi, i've lurked on these Trump threads for a while. The threads are usually quite jokey and i'm not sure if that's deliberate to lighten the mood or not. Is the threat from Trump that serious that fallout shelters need a mention. Genuine question, just a bit worried.

cozietoesie · 10/04/2018 23:34

I'm not understanding Rosenstein's mindset in all of this. (It looks as if he may have given the final go-ahead after all............)

OhYouBadBadKitten · 10/04/2018 23:34

Ive had dreams about nuclear war this week Confused

cozietoesie · 10/04/2018 23:35

None of us know, sleepy.

sleepyjane · 10/04/2018 23:36

Does anyone think it's likely.

boatyardblues · 10/04/2018 23:37

Gallows humour in the most part Janey, although John Bolton, Trump’s new National Security Adviser, is extremely open about his hawkish tendencies and Lord knows Trump is going to need a massive distraction to shift the news cycle off his misdeeds when the shit finally hits the fan...

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cozietoesie · 10/04/2018 23:38

Much depends on whether others can 'keep the heid'.

lionheart · 10/04/2018 23:40

I thought I'd slip it in right at the end there boatyard and no-one would notice.

The man has a sweet smile, a way of peering over his glasses when he asks a question and most important of all, is environmentally sound.

Smile

See.

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GingerIvy · 10/04/2018 23:43

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Let the attorney-client separation begin. Cohen may be headed way of Flynn—bad news for Don the DonNorm Eisen added,

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cozietoesie · 10/04/2018 23:44

Ahhhhhh. I just looked up Sheldon. Your interest is duly noted. Grin

boatyardblues · 10/04/2018 23:46

Now that is not the picture I was expecting. I was expecting someone more of Paul Ryan’s vintage, but actually handsome and not smug.

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cozietoesie · 10/04/2018 23:47

Look him up, boatyard. Wink

MissMarplesKnitting · 10/04/2018 23:47

Place marking for the current 'infrastructure week'.

It's only Tuesday. This week is, um, fast paced!!

boatyardblues · 10/04/2018 23:49

OK, his wiki page has a younger, smilier photo but he does not float my boat. He’s all yours.

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lionheart · 10/04/2018 23:50

Just ideological affinities, that's all. Smile

cozietoesie · 11/04/2018 00:05

First time I've heard it called that! Smile

cozietoesie · 11/04/2018 00:09

Goodness. It's 'Infrastructure Week'?

TheClaws · 11/04/2018 00:09

Thanks for the new thread, boatyard! Also I have a fun game for you all - ‘Treason or Not Treason?’ brought to you by the political cartoonist Sheneman.

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TheClaws · 11/04/2018 00:14

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BREAKING: President Trump is considering firing Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in an effort to put greater limits on special counsel Robert Mueller cnn.it/2qneey4

cozietoesie · 11/04/2018 00:17

No mention of Jefferson Beauregard, I see?

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