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Dogs. Everywhere

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monkeysox · 10/04/2018 20:51

Loads of shops, bars and restaurants are now allowing dogs in them.
I'm very allergic and one of my dc is too.
It's so widespread now. Such little thought for those with allergies.
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Crazycatladyx5 · 11/04/2018 19:20

I don't take my dog everywhere but it is nice to be able to go in a cafe with her after a long walk. If the weather was ok though Id rather sit outside. I do always take my dog on holiday & often holiday with my sister, her DH has a guide dog, who can obviously go everywhere. There's been a quite a few occasions when I've had to sit out in the rain with my dog when the rest of the family plus guide dog are inside...but that's what you do when you love your dog....& holiday in the highlands! I do like dog friendly cafes & pubs as long as the dogs are under control.

Frequency · 11/04/2018 19:29

I have to say, I've never witnessed a child injured or maimed by a dog in a park and as a former dog trainer, I've spent a lot time in parks with dogs and children.

You don't read about it much either. I've noticed articles on ill kept family pets harming children in their own homes, which is shocking and sad but in most, if not all cases, preventable and predictable. Articles concerning random dogs attacking children in parks are very rare considering it is apparently a big concern for parents.

Where are all these violent dogs making parks unsafe for children? And why aren't they reported more often in the media?

Something ought to be done! Does no-one think of the children?!

FrancisCrawford · 11/04/2018 19:29

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Alpineflowers · 11/04/2018 19:37

Where are all these violent dogs making parks unsafe for children?

Attacks on children in parks will be part of the statistics of thousands of dog attacks that hospitalise people every year.

Frequency · 11/04/2018 19:42

Attacks on children in parks will be part of the statistics of thousands of dog attacks that hospitalise people every year

Ah. I assumed the majority of those were family dogs biting their own family. Fuckwit Parent Lets Child Ride Jack Russell Terrier, Dog in Pain Snaps and Child Needs Stitches to Leg isn't very newsworthy whereas Park Unsafe Due to Alarming Number of Strange Dog Attacks on Children would sell a lot of newspapers.

I guess my understanding of the way the media works is wrong.

ihatetosay · 11/04/2018 20:28

wonderful idea- if you leave a dog outside a shop it will probably get stolen so being allowed in shops is great.

FrancisCrawford · 11/04/2018 20:33

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HaroldsSoCalledBluetits · 11/04/2018 20:50

There are over seven thousand hospital admissions due to dog bites every year, and an estimated 200,000. dog bites overall in the UK each year. But yeah, let's compare dogs to annoying toddlers. Ffs.

I think a lot of your perception of dogs depends on where you are, classwise. Mn is famously middle class, as evidenced by the multitude of posts on this thread about well behaved dogs snoozing in naice country pubs not posing a risk to anyone.

On the other side of the coin, your risk of being bitten and of that bite leading to a hospital admission rises massively if you live in a socially deprived area. This is because of the phenomenon of vicious dogs being used as status symbols and weapons. For people living in the poorest areas, dogs are a threat to their well-being.

LakieLady · 11/04/2018 20:58

Agree. Absolute nightmare. Why I love Dubai, no dogs there from what have seen

Very little in the way of human rights, either, especially for women and foreign workers. But hey, as long as there are no dogs, who gives a shit?

Frequency · 11/04/2018 21:01

For people living in the poorest areas, dogs are a threat to their well-being

Really? I'd be interested to see the research behind this claim. I live in a deprived area and I don't feel under threat from hordes of savage dogs.

FreudianSlurp · 11/04/2018 21:03

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angryburd · 11/04/2018 21:13

I live in a very deprived area, and the only animals I fear are those on two legs.

monkeysox · 11/04/2018 21:14

There was no mention of attacks or biting at all in my initial post.
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HaroldsSoCalledBluetits · 11/04/2018 21:14

According to this article, you are between two and three times more likely to be admitted to hospital following a dog attack if you live in a deprived area.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/may/28/hospital-admissions-for-injuries-caused-by-dogs-up-76-over-past-10-years

monkeysox · 11/04/2018 21:15

Also for clarity, fido does not need to pop to collect some bits from hobby craft...

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HaroldsSoCalledBluetits · 11/04/2018 21:16

And if you have never come across dangerous dogs being used as status symbols, I can only say you're very lucky.

jellyshoeswithdiamonds · 11/04/2018 21:18

Don't go to France whatever you do, dogs are welcomed nearly everywhere, it's truly wonderful to see.

Unlike where I am where one coffee shop doesn't allow dogs in but does allow mountain bikers who are head to foot splattered in mud (and stale sweat after all that biking) sitting on their upholstered chairs, now that's disgusting.

Reading some of the posts here has reinforced why I prefer to spend my time with my dog.

FrancisCrawford · 11/04/2018 21:20

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Grandmaswagsbag · 11/04/2018 21:20

Posted on the other dog thread but I should have posted here with the other do ‘haters’. It would offend me greatly if dogs were allowed in cafes/shops/bara. I’d probably leave if there were lots. No matter how clean your dog is they still stink. Nothing offends me like the smell of dog. I’d actually rather have the smell of vomit wafting around me. I hate dogs that slobber over everything and owners who see no problem with this. Then there’s all the hair. Gross. Of course it’s unhygienic and I don’t want them anywhere near where I eat.

FrancisCrawford · 11/04/2018 21:22

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Frequency · 11/04/2018 21:23

It doesn't say anything about the dogs bites being from dogs who are unknown to the bitee or them taking place on public land.

I can understand why the number of family dogs biting family members would be higher in deprived areas where education and income is likely to poorer.

Dogs randomly attacking strangers is vanishingly rare. Dogs randomly attacking anyone is vanishingly rare. If we want to reduce the number of dog attacks we need to educate the public.

Not once was I ever called to visit an aggressive dog or a dog who'd bitten where the aggression was not caused by human behaviour and/or human's misunderstanding the animal's needs and behaviour.

I was called many, many times about dogs who growled when the child did x, y or z including but not limited to sitting on the dog. Apparently, large swathes of the population believe a dog should not growl if a child sits on it.

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Alpineflowers · 11/04/2018 21:24

HaroldsSoCalledBluetits-There are over seven thousand hospital admissions due to dog bites every year, and an estimated 200,000. dog bites overall in the UK each year.

Yes and often these attacks, especially on young children, involve life changing injuries

FrancisCrawford · 11/04/2018 21:26

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Alpineflowers · 11/04/2018 21:27

If a dog bites a child it should be put down