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Repeal the 8th

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SnowWhitesRestingBitchFace · 10/04/2018 20:30

So DH and I are currently visiting my DF and DStepM in Southern Ireland (where I grew up).

Just answered the door to a couple who are looking for support in the referendum and wanted us to pledge that we would vote no.

No for context I am just 6 weeks away from giving birth to DC3 (so clearly very heavily pregnant) and they still had the audacity to argue with me when I said I didn't agree with them and I supported any woman's right to decide what happens to her body.

They started trying to show me pictures of 10 week old babies in the womb (not necessary obviously in the circumstances) and weren't pleased that I didn't agree with them given that I'm carrying a baby myself.

I'm sorry I don't really have an actual AIBU I just wanted to rant a bit and show support for the people who have to face this absolute shit every day until the referendum. We're going home to the UK on Thursday so I won't have it all thrown in my face anymore but I just think the guilt tripping is horrendous 😞

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bumpertobumper · 30/04/2018 21:55

I was thinking about going home to vote ( live in England now), but now deliberating whether the money would be better spent donated to Together for Yes instead of going to aer liingus and there being one more vote... Hmm
Any thoughts?

snuffykins · 30/04/2018 22:08

We need all the actual yes votes we can get! Please seriously consider coming home to vote if you can.

peanut2017 · 30/04/2018 22:12

@bumpertobumper if you can come back to vote please do. We need every vote we can get. Together for Yes raised a good bit of money and you can see the posters around.

Please come home to vote and think you need to have left within the last 18 months to be eligible to vote

bumpertobumper · 30/04/2018 22:46

I've checked the register and it seems I've been away too long Sad, only allowed to vote for president now.
Will donate and hassle friends who can but might not vote...
🤞

snuffykins · 30/04/2018 23:03

Please do, every vote counts!

I participated in my first canvas tonight and it was great to see so many yes voters. I know it's not like that every where so every little bit helps!

NeedAGoodBook · 30/04/2018 23:08

I was v upset last weekend, in my home town there seemed to be about 3 no campaigners for every yes campaigner and I was giving a no leaflet by a fourteen year old who ''doesn't like killing humans "
I am so worried about this referendum

NeedAGoodBook · 30/04/2018 23:09

no bumpertobumper please come home!

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SnowWhitesRestingBitchFace · 30/04/2018 23:11

I read posts from the 'In Her Shoes' Facebook page everyday and honestly it's breaking my heart 😞

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snuffykins · 30/04/2018 23:19

Did anyone see photos of the vile massive posters the no side had outside the entrance to the rotunda maternity hospital today?

Tararhu · 30/04/2018 23:50

This shouldn’t be something people vote on it should be a right. The Irish government shouldn’t have to go to this length to get it past. Being pregnant and not wanting to be must be horrendous. Never mind heartbreaking cases if rape, incest and medical complications. Why should these women suffer more by having to fly to the U.K. due helo.

For U.K. ladies we must not forget that Northern Ireland also has no abortion and no plans to change this. This is shameful. Many people in n.i take pride in their ‘Britishness’ yet don’t provide basic rights other British woman takes for granted. It’s a disgrace.

mrsmunch2000 · 01/05/2018 07:53

@bumpertobumper - i was a bit confused myself by the register & looking in to it a bit further it looks like Presidential is the highest classification of voter. It means that you are eligible to vote in Presidential elections & Referenda & all 'lower' elections (Dail, European, local) as an irish citizen.

Being out of the country doesn't impact what you are allowed to vote on, in fact if you're not living in ireland, or outside ireland on diplomatic duties, you're not actually supposed to have a vote at all. But i promise not to tell if you come home to vote for repeal Wink

Trinity66 · 01/05/2018 10:54

and I was giving a no leaflet by a fourteen year old who ''doesn't like killing humans "

atleast he/she can't vote!

Radyward · 01/05/2018 18:29

I think this whole thread is so onesided it is unbelievable. It's akin to being a Trump Supporter the media vilification of everyone with a different view point ie the No Side. I was early on a complete No then I was a YES and now I am an undecided. Why oh Why hasnt there been government literature by now through the letter box ? As for paid ads ( which don't look like paid ones but are stealthily put in on social media ) from both sides I find shocking. I am no Catholic nut neither am I uneducated- I hold a phd but the bullying- the only word to describe the treatment of the undecideds or The No campaigners or people who aren't an empahtic yes is nothing short of disgusting.

PerryPerryThePlatypus · 01/05/2018 18:45

I'll be home to vote. I'm bringing a car load with me, all yes voters.

DougFargo · 01/05/2018 18:47

I think this whole thread is so onesided it is unbelievable. It's akin to being a Trump Supporter the media vilification of everyone with a different view point ie the No Side

It's really not. Of course its one sided, there is only one viable side.

Frankly if you are a no voter or a Trump supporter you deserve any vilification you get anyway. Tough tits for being on the wrong side of both matters!

PinkbicyclesinBerlin · 01/05/2018 19:00

A thread called Repeal the 8th is one sided. I think there was a clue in the thread name there Rady of course it is one sided.

TheVeryThing · 01/05/2018 19:31

Feel free to start your own thread if you don’t like this one.
There is plenty of information out there if you are undecided. Louise Kenny has written an excellent piece outlining the health issues involved.
I was supposed to go on my first canvas this evening but it was postponed due to the weather. I’ve done a couple of information stalls and they were fairly positively received.
I’m seeing a lot more Yes posters around in the last few days too.

NeedAGoodBook · 01/05/2018 19:32

dougfargo when any woman finds herself facing an unwanted crisis pregnancy. There are two sides. Two decisions. She is the only qualified voter.

Hope that helps.

NeedAGoodBook · 01/05/2018 19:33

Apologies to DougFargo!!! Sorry.

DougFargo · 01/05/2018 19:36

No problem Wink

LuluMarie · 01/05/2018 19:53

I'm Irish and live overseas - I don't see the parallels for flying home with the marriage equality. That was a big fecking celebration party. Sadly with this one, even voting for the choice, it's not something I feel I should celebrate. So I'm not sure that the overseas/out of the country lot will get as involved unless it is a very personal issue to them. For me, unless it's a medical situation, which of course is utterly heartbreaking and tragic, or an assault, again same, I'm not comfortable with it. However it is not my place to choose how anyone else behaves or comment on their choice when it is not a choice I have made. I think the pro-life squad with the graphic literature and posters are way out of line, trying to shock and scare (and children are seeing this way before they should). They have no idea what another human may be going through or the guilt they may feel when they've done nothing wrong.

Good on everyone who responds to intrusion into their life to be lectured whilst about 100 months pregnant so clearly already taken a position on that instance, it shouldn't be on your doorstep. Tell them to feck off please:)

DougFargo · 01/05/2018 20:03

I don't see the parallels for flying home with the marriage equality. That was a big fecking celebration party. Sadly with this one, even voting for the choice, it's not something I feel I should celebrate

This will be a big fecking celebration party too. We've been working for this for decades, dam straight we'll be celebrating getting our basic human right finally granted to us.

Radyward · 01/05/2018 20:14

I saw this thread as a discussion on Repeal the 8th. So any opinion other than the populist is not allowed on this thread, Good luck with that attitude.
I am an undecided- there are a lot like me under the radar and out of the political arena.
1-I want the mother's life to take precedence over the unborn.
2- I want the area of consent in Irish Hospitals made crystal clear and women's right's over their own body while a patient in Irish Hospitals be paramount.
3-In the case of Foetal abnormalities I am totally against Irish having to make that terrible journey to Liverpool or wherever with no support at all from her own Country- They should be looked after at home. - That has got to change
But the vote is too open for many many people . The referendum should have been compartmentalised into a number of questions on those 3 points as above as well as one question on freely available abortion. This is where the repeal vote may fail to the detriment of the above 3 points - unfortunately , and those catholic nutters that stand at College Green with their disgusting pamphlets and posters while little kids pass by may hail a win. It has been handled all wrong. The media are assuming a yes vote but I would not be so sure- There just may be a silent majority. I really don't know.

Katiepoes · 01/05/2018 20:25

What is it you are undecided about then? This referendum is to repeal an absurd constitutional amendment that gives equal rights to an unborn baby over an actual person. If you believe that a woman has rights over her own body, a right to medical treatment and a right to determine whether or not she becomes a mother - well vote Yes.

If for some reason you believe that the rights of a pregnant woman are to be reduced as she has conceived then by all means vote No. That is your right.

No discussion needed - either you acknowledge a woman is a person with rights or you don't. Isn't it nice to be able to CHOOSE?

peanut2017 · 01/05/2018 21:11

@PinkbicyclesinBerlin 👏 well said