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Repeal the 8th

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SnowWhitesRestingBitchFace · 10/04/2018 20:30

So DH and I are currently visiting my DF and DStepM in Southern Ireland (where I grew up).

Just answered the door to a couple who are looking for support in the referendum and wanted us to pledge that we would vote no.

No for context I am just 6 weeks away from giving birth to DC3 (so clearly very heavily pregnant) and they still had the audacity to argue with me when I said I didn't agree with them and I supported any woman's right to decide what happens to her body.

They started trying to show me pictures of 10 week old babies in the womb (not necessary obviously in the circumstances) and weren't pleased that I didn't agree with them given that I'm carrying a baby myself.

I'm sorry I don't really have an actual AIBU I just wanted to rant a bit and show support for the people who have to face this absolute shit every day until the referendum. We're going home to the UK on Thursday so I won't have it all thrown in my face anymore but I just think the guilt tripping is horrendous 😞

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mikado1 · 10/04/2018 21:22

That's it exactly SnowWhitesRestingBitchFace It could throw some the other way.

Trinity66 · 10/04/2018 21:22

And I'm in Dublin and know mostly liberal types. God knows what the attitudes are in the country.

I hope you're not calling anyone outside of Dublin boggers :p

LaurieMarlow · 10/04/2018 21:23

No, but they're more conservative on these matters.

Lovelylovelyllamas · 10/04/2018 21:26

Irish in Scotland here and pleased to have been able to donate to Together for Yes today. Even more pleased that my elderly father who has lived in England for over 50 years felt strongly enough to donate too. However I am troubled that a lot of friends who were extremely vocal and proactive during the marriage ref have been entirely silent on the subject. I’m actually more confident that my elderly relatives will be voting yes than some of my middle aged friends. Proud of my young friends fighting the yes corner and campaigning for Irish students here to go back to vote.

Trinity66 · 10/04/2018 21:26

No, but they're more conservative on these matters.

Every county bar Roscommon voted Yes for Gay marriage, we're not that backwards

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 10/04/2018 21:27

Tbf I think the no voters aren't going to post it on fb, in general.

I agree. I’m not on FB but DH is and some of his very pro-life relatives have kept their mouths shut thus far but have been very active IRL with spreading posters around and door knocking.

I hope we don’t encounter any of them when we are back home soon.
(We are Irish but living in the U.K.)

TheEagle · 10/04/2018 21:29

I’m originally from Dublin, now living in the back arse of nowhere in Cork.

The most conservative and zealous pro-lifers I’ve known are middle-class well-to-do South County Dubliners.

It’s a bit simplistic to say that “country people” will vote No.

mikado1 · 10/04/2018 21:29

Agree with you Trinity66 and you LaurieMarlow I too think rural voters will be 'Oh God, no.' There just won't be the discussion or the thought in many areas, not all, Trinners !

dustarr73 · 10/04/2018 21:30

I really hope it goes through.Im hoping someone knocks at my door.We need the choice at this stage.

It's one of them things that you might never need it.But look at the bigger picture.

squoosh · 10/04/2018 21:31

I've been giving monthly donations to Repeal charities for yonks now. It's the only thing I can do to help (aside from try and win my parents around to a Yes vote) as I'm not eligible to vote in Ireland anymore.

LaurieMarlow · 10/04/2018 21:32

I'm not saying anyone's backwards!!!

I don't think it's particularly disputed that the rural areas tend to be more conservative in Ireland.

I'd love it if they turned out to take a liberal stance on this.

We'll see how it pans out. I just don't like the language people are using. There was such positivity on the gay marriage vote. This time it's all hesitation and obfuscation (among the over 40s).

tenbob · 10/04/2018 21:34

Not to derail, but this is the first time I've seen someone call it 'Southern Ireland' and not get a pasting for it Wink

squoosh · 10/04/2018 21:34

I'm nervous of the result though. With the marriage ref roughly two thirds of those who voted voted for marriage equality. But marriage is a happy thing, an easier sell than talking about abortion. So I'm quietly hopeful but a long way from feeling certain.

Trinity66 · 10/04/2018 21:37

*I'm not saying anyone's backwards!!!

I don't think it's particularly disputed that the rural areas tend to be more conservative in Ireland.*

It just sounded like you were saying everywhere outside of Dublin was rural Grin That's awful insulting to someone from the Real capitol don't ya know :p

RepealMay25th · 10/04/2018 21:38

They are complete twats, but we knew that.

(BTW, you grew up in Ireland but still think its ok to call it "Southern Ireland?)

BertrandRussell · 10/04/2018 21:39

Hoping to see all the people who flew home to vote for gay marriage flying home again.............

RepealMay25th · 10/04/2018 21:39

I don't think it's particularly disputed that the rural areas tend to be more conservative in Ireland
You mean all those rural areas that voted for gay marriage and are out on the streets of their local towns giving out Together for Yes leaflets?

LaurieMarlow · 10/04/2018 21:42

Look, if the more rural counties have higher numbers voting repeal than the urban centres, I promise to come back to this thread and beg forgiveness.

RepealMay25th · 10/04/2018 21:43

You could just do it now since you're pretty wrong. There are plenty of pro lifers in Dublin, there are plenty of pro choicers who live outside of Dublin. Its not that kind of divide.

mikado1 · 10/04/2018 21:45

Absolutely Squoosh, I wouldn't be drawing any big parallels with the marriage equality referendum here.

LaurieMarlow · 10/04/2018 21:48

There are plenty of pro lifers in Dublin, there are plenty of pro choicers who live outside of Dublin

Well obviously. All I ever said was that urban centres tend to be more liberal. WhichI stand by until I'm proved wrong.

For interest, I found this breakdown county by county on the gay marriage vote. Dublin yes vote higher than the rest of the county.

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.thejournal.ie/constituency-count-same-sex-marriage-referendum-2120378-May2015/%3famp=1

mikado1 · 10/04/2018 21:50

I imagine the rural divide- and I expect one too- will be age related. Speaking generally of course. But we may be surprised.

LaurieMarlow · 10/04/2018 21:51

Mikado I agree with that. I think age will be the most divisive criteria on this.

Trinity66 · 10/04/2018 21:52

Cork, Galway, waterford and Limerick are cities too Wink

squoosh · 10/04/2018 21:52

Age is definitely the bigger divide than location but I too would expect cities (I heard a rumour there were Irish cities other than Dublin but I can't confirm Wink) to lean towards Yes than more rural areas. The demographic breakdown will be interesting to see.

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