To find floral tributes being left for Harry Vincent offensive

[frankchickens]

This is an attempt to intimidate the innocent family. Flowers should be removed - isn’t it littering?

Falling Motherhood said -
"The police should have prevented the flowers being laid down and need to get on top of this before someone else gets hurt."

This.

Very worrying some of the relatives of the dead burglar seem to think he wasn’t a ‘bad man’ because he wasn’t a rapist or anything! What?

Burglary is a horrendous crime. Violating a persons personal space, the place they make nice to feel safe in. Many victims of burglary never recover from the shock or feel safe again.

You don’t have to be old to be affected by burglary. I was in my 20’s when my home was burgled - decades on I’ve been affected by it.I hate it when people attempt to downgrade burglary to a petty misdemeanour. It isn’t!

sheer greed and contempt for others motivated this crime.............nothing else. It was a nasty, cowardly and contemptible act.

Oh look. The flowers have been ripped down for a third time. Who could have predicted that?

Now looking into my MysticMucks crystal ball I predict, the travellers will put them back up again!

I hope the police stop them in order to prevent a breach of the peace.

We need Kate to pop that sprog out as a matter of urgency to give the Mail something else to fill up their space with

🤣 Shall we send her a hot curry, a couple of pineapples and a bucket of raspberry leaf tea?

Another thought has come to me. The travalling community are known for having big funerals. A well known traveller near me died and his coffin was driven threw the streets on a horse and carriage with loads of people following it. They caused carnage.

They didn’t ask permission they just did it. I can see Vincent’s family trying to pull something like this.

Alphineflowers, when the flowers were first pulled down, on Camera, the perpetrator was asked his name and he gave the name in of another householder who had killed an intruder and got acquitted. So it was done in a way deliberately to escalate the situation.

That person has since been back and took it further by ripping everything down and stamping on the flowers. It is him that is adding fuel to the fire.

Some Newspapers reported it as "local people tear down flowers", but it wasn't a local person, he classes himself as a vigilante. Why is there false reporting?

"This is 2018. We live in a modern western country, we choose our lifestyle choices, culture and ideology. Being a traveller does not have to be about whether your gt grandad was a hawker of pegs. You can choose to be one or choose not to be"

Whenever there is a Muslim Terrorist attack, or bad treatment of Women, on threads on here, their right to exercise parts of their Culture that doesn't fit in with ours, is defended to the hilt. Terrorist becomes about the individual(s), not Muslims as a whole. reletives have not been told that they must not grieve or carry out funerals according to their traditions and the Police would support themto do so.

Yet when it's a Traveller that does something, it's said, as this thread demonstrates, it's because Traveller Culture is criminal, or they don't have the right to live by different Norms etc.

We have never been able to have a balanced discussion about economic migrants on here, without the cries of Racism.

If what has been said about any other group, this thread wouldn't still stand. Individual posts wasn't being deleted. I reported many and MN took their time in deleting them. On a thread about any other Ethnic group, I wouldn't have had to. The whole thread would have been pulled by MN, after the fourth bit of Racism.

" I can see Vincent’s family trying to pull something like this."

At least you've used the word 'Family' and not just 'the Travellers', because we are talking about a grieving Family, including his children. What will they 'pull'? You mean that they'll want to carry out their funeral traditions? The only person that that's ever been stopped for, is Ian Brady and that's all the family's point is, when they say he isn't a child killer etc.

Is it only Muslims that can hate the sin but not the sinner?

Actually thinking about it, the false reporting should be very concerning to everyone, because that is what will fuel any unrest.

The Media should be held accountable.

Well there must be something wrong with me, down.
I'm defuckinglighted, over the moon. I've got no problems at all in say thst.
It's one less evil cunt in the world to terrorise the elderly or anyone else for that matter. Where's the scum maggot that was with him I wonder, cowering I suppose.
Mind you in shouldn't call them maggots.
A maggot wouldn't do what they did.

spider I totally agree. People underestimate the impact of a burglary on a person's life and well being. You don't have to physically hurt someone to affect them for the rest of their life. I couldn't care less about the lowlife that died. He was committing a horrific crime. If a woman killed a man that was raping her, would anyone give a shit about the perpetrator? I thought not.

Blame the police, media yes keep it up.

The only person to blame here is the burglar who entered a property he had no business to be in. He was carrying a weapon and threatened a totally innocent person. Made worse that the person was elderly and a cater for his wife.

The burglar died.

My sympathy is entirely with the elderly couple and I hope they get help and protection.

I find it incredible that people can act in such a cruel and intimidating way and I am glad to know this so called man won’t eber harm another human being even if his family seem intent on doing so instead of being quietly ashamed in their grief like decent people would.

This 'shrine' thing is ab-fucking-normal full stop.

Pay your respects to the bereaved, you ostentatious twats!

There's a level of shameless that defies belief here.

People like this have grown up away in a self contained bubble, away from ordinary society, they live in a place where crime is a natural career path and we're the cattle they milk for cash.

They haven't taken a look at themselves and thought that, perhaps, there's another way of life that doesn't involve courts and prison as occupational hazards.

Traveller or not, I can guarantee the money for an ostentatious funeral will be found, there'll be a massive hearse that will more than likely be horse drawn, a gigantic funeral procession (more than likely past this poor pensioner's house) and outright touting for a fight.

It will be a free for all and they'll attract outright scum who're just in it for a scrap with the police, the women will probably wear something skin tight and shiny and these 'vigilantes' are more than likely going to give them the fight they're looking for.

The inquest and the funeral to come are riots waiting to happen.

is it only Muslims that can hate the sin but not the sinner

No I think Christians believe that crap too.

I expect if it happened to you or people you love you would hate both. Especially in these early sensitive days with supporters of the evil bastard rubbing salt into the wounds of that poor old couple

Whenever there is a Muslim Terrorist attack, or bad treatment of Women, on threads on here, their right to exercise parts of their Culture that doesn't fit in with ours, is defended to the hilt. Terrorist becomes about the individual(s), not Muslims as a whole. reletives have not been told that they must not grieve or carry out funerals according to their traditions and the Police would support themto do so.

Yet when it's a Traveller that does something, it's said, as this thread demonstrates, it's because Traveller Culture is criminal, or they don't have the right to live by different Norms etc.

Not sure what you mean. On my part, I've, in all instances that you mentioned above, pointed the blame at the people who are actually to blame, not entire cultures or ethnic groups.

Your post there is inaccurate and biased (purposefully?). In all instances you have huge discussions between people who blame entire groups and people who blame individuals or specific groups. Not at all as you described it.

Sorry but floral tributes are horrible. His family knew he was a career criminal. He was on the police wanted list total scum.

And there is no such thing as a muslim terrorist attack it’s just a terrorist and nothing to do with any religion. Just like the cunt who killed jo Cox. Like the cunts in Telford who raped girls.

Terrorists and criminals hide behind causes and religions but really they are just psychopaths. They hope using race religion culture or ethnicity will let people defend any disgusting act.

It really doesn’t

It’s abnormal to erect a shrine where no one died!

He died in hospital.

It’s abnormal to show so little Shame at a dreadful action and so little empathy for the victim not the perpetrator

The persistence in replacing the flowers shows that it is being done just to be inflammatory.
Plus mourners usually add one bouquet each, they're taking boxes of them. Shameless.

It’s abnormal to show so little Shame at a dreadful action and so little empathy for the victim not the perpetrator

Actually some of us can manage to have sympathy for the victim of a burglary AND not rejoice at someone else violent death. All at the same time!
You might try it

@DownWithThatSortofTing

1. We are not in other countries. We are here, in the UK. We don't do this.

1. I'm from an Irish Catholic background (similar to Travellers, but not the same) and we pay respects to the bereaved.

1. As previous posters said, boxes of flowers are inflammatory and unnecessary.

Cretin, indeed....

1. We are not in other countries. We are here, in the UK. We don't do this

Other cultures exist in the UK. "We" as in some of them, absolutely DO do this.

I doubt Richard Osborn-Brooks went to bed that night thinking murderous thoughts. Vincent was over 40 years younger and it is a fluke it wasn't the other way round.

The Osborn-Brooks and many of their neighbours have suffered emotional, financial and possible physical damage as a result of burglary.

The family's grief at the loss of a son, father, nephew cousin I understand, respect and sympathise with. BUT they need to understand that those living in the area hold Vincent's lifestyle in contempt, an unemployed criminal targeting the elderly in his scams. The removal of those flowers is demonstrating contempt for his lifestyle rather than disrespect for the fa

family's grief

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