To be devastated at the demise of the Labour Party, and to wonder how anyone can look at themselves in the mirror if they vote for Corbyn now?

[snowagain]

Just that really.

Been a Labour supporter all my life, til the last election. Because hell will freeze over before I will vote for Jeremy Corbyn.

I am literally devastated at the demise of the Labour party, that has been systematically destroyed from the inside out, by Corbyn and his cronies, and by Corbyn's pathetic behaviour. From his denial of bad behaviour from his party, to the way he shuts down anyone who challenges him. (Including reporters, and his own people ..... if they don't agree with everything he says, he sacks them.)

In the last election, for the first time ever in my life, I was unable to vote, because I am not voting for Conservatives. (Even so, if I HAD to vote by law, I would vote for Conservatives before I would vote for Labour.)

The Labour party is dying a slow and painful death, and is a laughing stock. First of all we have the standing joke that is Corbyn, with his bizarre 'extreme-left' bollocks, and refusing to answer any questions that don't suit him, .......'Mr Corbyn what about the antisemitism in in your party?' 'YES it is a nice day isn't it? Thank you, goodbye!' Fucking twit!

And then we have his ludicrous and laughable cronies... Diane 'can't count for toffee' Abbott, Monroe 'bigoted ranty' Bergdorf, and now Eddie fucking Izzard in a dress.

Even people I know who were obsessive Corbynites a year or so ago, are cringing with embarrassment now, as he turns the party into more of a laughing stock every day. And as I said in the thread title, how can anyone POSSIBLY support him and the Labour party now?

That's it really. I am literally so gutted at the demise of my party.

Until Corbyn fucks off and takes his cronies with him, Labour is dead to me. And I know a LOT of people who think the same!

R.I.P. The Labour Party. 😢😢😢

Ghost of - we are actually both patriots - I love this country and you love any country that doesn’t!

So funny seen the other thread that aibu is full of Tory trolls? You just couldn’t make it up

My dog - by Tory trolls I assume you mean non racist non Jew hating types. Or normal rational people in other words

Hey, you sound rattled? Are you rattled? This is the 7th richest nation on Earth. The fact that people live in poverty here is a failure of neo liberal economics. This is not a race to the bottom We should not be grateful merely because we have a clean water.

Also using tabloid insults like snowflake really exposes your intellectual shortcomings.

Poverty is relative that is my point. Poverty in this country is by contrast to the rest of the world almost a choice

I suspect the real rabid Corbyn worshippers, and I discount the kids here because that’s understandable, the real followers are mainly middle cksss professionals very comfy off who know dam well his policies won’t hurt them as he won’t get elected or they are wealthy snowflakes on trust funds and this is all a game.

Working class they ain’t.

Relative to the rest of the world, no one in Britain is poor

We are a rich country! There are people living in poverty and homelessness increasing daily. Fuck off with relative to the rest of the world! What a smug and stupid comment!

Hey

Right, so losing your job through redundancy or falling ill and ending up in poverty is a choice? Dear god...

Can you explain to me what neo liberal economics means please. Sounds like more nonsense understood only in gatherings of the Swp. Enlighten me

WOnt vote for either. Corbyn makes me feel sick & I could never vote Tory.

Gottagetmoving - people in this country have choices. Poverty is a choice. So is homelessness. Neither problem necessarily has its roots in how much money there is in a household. As I said in earlier posts you simply do not understand the world around you. Instead you seek to explain with sixth form platitudes. There are people in this country who you could make millionaires overnight and they would still be back on benefits in 12 months time.

What they don’t explain economic systems in the tabloids? Not beyond socialism is bad and magic money trees.

Hey, you sound rattled? Are you rattled? This is the 7th richest nation on Earth. The fact that people live in poverty here is a failure of neo liberal economics. This is not a race to the bottom We should not be grateful merely because we have a clean water.

You could step away from the populist trump-esc soundbites that do not really mean anything and answer some questions.

We could pick up on one where you tie yourself up in knots,Neo-liberal politics, but then we get into the whole "racist leavers" debate where you are suddenly conflicted with this post, considering your stance in the brexit debate..

So much ignorance...

Ghost of - I’m serious - please explain the term neo liberal economics

Lurker, my post didn’t mention Brexit. You are tying yourself in knots. Wanting to address social problems in not populist it is the responsibility of any government.

Look it up hey it’s not my job to give you an economics lesson.

Ghost of - you had a chance to educate me and blew it.

Or perhaps neo liberal economics is just another meaningless phrase used to try and sound awfully clever but is completely vacuous.

Yes, hey you’re probably right. I’ll tell the economics professors and academics that neo liberalism is a meaningless phrase because someone on the internet said so.

Gottagetmoving - people in this country have choices. Poverty is a choice. So is homelessness. Neither problem necessarily has its roots in how much money there is in a household. As I said in earlier posts you simply do not understand the world around you. Instead you seek to explain with sixth form platitudes. There are people in this country who you could make millionaires overnight and they would still be back on benefits in 12 months time*

That is the most ignorant and stupid post I have ever read on Mumsnet.
Understand the world around me? You don't understand what's under your nose in your own country.
You must be Katie Hopkins...because there can't be two women that nasty or ignorant in this country.
You can't explain anything to anyone who makes the stupid comments you just made.

just yes think there are millions of us.

Right, so losing your job through redundancy or falling ill and ending up in poverty is a choice? Dear god

It's not worth arguing with Heyduggees
She is a Katie Hopkins clone...or just plain nasty.

Gottagetmoving

Happy to oblige - sorry to burst your bubble, perhaps if I said poverty was all the fault of the state that would make you happier? Because it isn’t.

Neoliberalism or neo-liberalism refers primarily to the 20th-century resurgence of 19th-century ideas associated with laissez-faire economic liberalism.

Ghost of - done your homework for you. Can you explain what you would replace this with please?