To be devastated at the demise of the Labour Party, and to wonder how anyone can look at themselves in the mirror if they vote for Corbyn now?

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Just that really.

Been a Labour supporter all my life, til the last election. Because hell will freeze over before I will vote for Jeremy Corbyn.

I am literally devastated at the demise of the Labour party, that has been systematically destroyed from the inside out, by Corbyn and his cronies, and by Corbyn's pathetic behaviour. From his denial of bad behaviour from his party, to the way he shuts down anyone who challenges him. (Including reporters, and his own people ..... if they don't agree with everything he says, he sacks them.)

In the last election, for the first time ever in my life, I was unable to vote, because I am not voting for Conservatives. (Even so, if I HAD to vote by law, I would vote for Conservatives before I would vote for Labour.)

The Labour party is dying a slow and painful death, and is a laughing stock. First of all we have the standing joke that is Corbyn, with his bizarre 'extreme-left' bollocks, and refusing to answer any questions that don't suit him, .......'Mr Corbyn what about the antisemitism in in your party?' 'YES it is a nice day isn't it? Thank you, goodbye!' Fucking twit!

And then we have his ludicrous and laughable cronies... Diane 'can't count for toffee' Abbott, Monroe 'bigoted ranty' Bergdorf, and now Eddie fucking Izzard in a dress.

Even people I know who were obsessive Corbynites a year or so ago, are cringing with embarrassment now, as he turns the party into more of a laughing stock every day. And as I said in the thread title, how can anyone POSSIBLY support him and the Labour party now?

That's it really. I am literally so gutted at the demise of my party.

Until Corbyn fucks off and takes his cronies with him, Labour is dead to me. And I know a LOT of people who think the same!

R.I.P. The Labour Party. 😢😢😢

Prolific posting on here like all the bloody time, could be paid to post?

This thread is hilarious. Posters trying to claim they are interested in politics whilst asking if Corbyn has ever won an election.
If no-one voted for Corbyn then we wouldn't have these threads time and time again. The fact is certain people want Corbyn to be unelectable. They need him to be unelectable and yet he continues to win elections.
If they genuinely want to depose Corbyn, they should get behind him. Support him wholeheartedly and then, like every other political leader, he will disappoint and eventually be voted out.

Heyduggeesflipflop - I don't propose anything. However, if a referendum in NI concludes that the majority of the public want reunification, then it must happen. The half of residents who identify as British must learn to live with it the way they have expected the other half to for so long.

On a somewhat related topic, although I am strongly anti-brexit, in a funny twist of fate, Brexit is likely to push reunification of Ireland closer than anything else that's happened in the last 10-20yrs. It is looking more and more likely that the border in NI will be what scuppers any "deal" the UK manages, and the effective border will be placed in the Irish sea and enforced at the airports and ferry terminals.

Fun times ahead, just not for May! :)

Try reading the manifesto. I'd suggest reading the Tories also but it got ripped up after the election.

Again with the whataboutism ....

Ignoring JC stance on the EU that has gone back decades and has a provable online voting record, we could talk about him backtracking on most of his headline policies within days.

This is about JC, not about the tories, you still flailing does not mean i read the daily mail..

I wonder how ghost of’s nest is feathered to sustain her views

oh do tell! I think you'll be disappointed. Things started getting personal once the smears were exposed.

Treacletoots

I would agree that Jc is likely a decent person. However he is not leadership material and neither is he the man to act as a unifying force. This is peak corbyn.

I'm happy to vote for labour in the next election. Ge is still some time away so depends on their manifesto at the time of course. Doesn't mean I agree with every policy or every single member of the party but on the whole they are the best option at the moment.

I don't need him to be unelectable. He does that himself. Beating the Tories in the last election should have been like shooting fish in a barrel. Leading the country against the lies of Boris and Gove should have been easy.
He failed.

Beating the Tories in the last election should have been like shooting fish in a barrel.

This is rewriting history. May called the election because her pals in the gutter press told her she'd get a landslide!

This issue works for them because it attracts the voters important to them - rabid west haters

FFS...they don't hate the west! They hate what rabid capitalism is doing to the welfare state and the poorer people in the west. But then,...if you aren't poor, you can easily ignore that.

Ghost of - as much as I am enjoying our discussion these are not smears - Jc and labour have a problem and need to address it.

But I am wasting my time - there are none so blind as those who will not see...

This is about JC, not about the tories, you still flailing does not mean i read the daily mail..

You need it to be about JC. You want the government to be held to account but won't talk about the government. You may not read the Daily Mail but parts of this thread come across as a DM editorial.

Gottagetmoving

Relative to the rest of the world, no one in Britain is poor.

As for your rabid capitalism, you are just trotting our more left wing bullsh#% bingo

It's not that criticising the Tory party makes you a Tory shrill. It's the people who are claiming they won't be voting for labour day in the next election and will allow the conservative party to have another term all due this antisemitism. It's just insane. I just find it hard to believe that you are a true liberal/democratic socialist. You are being complicit to the ways the Tory's at running things. That toy would rather have out NHS collapse, out homelessness rate continue to rise, out doctors and nurses wages continue to fall all due to this antisemitism.

Like I said before once the election begins and the people start to remember how the Tory's have ruined this country and policies ate actually being talked about people will have no choice but to vote Tories. Would you want another term with May leading the country to oblivion or even worse Boris?!

But I am wasting my time - there are none so blind as those who will not see...

You are disappointed because I won't obediently fall into line like a good patriot. I am not a drone.

Speaking of those who will not see - have you acknowledged yet that JC did support the GFA?

I don't care what May's pals in the gutter press said. She ran a dreadful campaign which should have been beaten. Not rewriting history.

All these threads show is that certain factions of Labour would rather throw away local elections by creating division than campaigning and supporting the party they are supposed to represent. They would rather help the Tories than support Corbyn.
The problem is when you choose Tories as your bedfellows, you become indistinguishable from them and ultimately the party will lose more than Corbyn. It's very similar to the attitude that lost Scotland for Labour. Yet, here they are again. No lessons learnt.

This is rewriting history. May called the election because her pals in the gutter press told her she'd get a landslide!

No, it's a bit more nuanced than that, polls were suggesting she would win with a landslide but it was also to head of at the pass that she was not elected so couldn't deal with brexit, the fact that the Tories ran on a very shit campaign and Corbyn still lost is somehow missed with his most ardent supporters.

We could talk about Cambridge analytica type arguments but there is a reason why Labour and Corbyn hasn't spoke out about this with conviction, "muh right wing press" is a cop out argument and just blaming the other...

The fact that Corbyn suffered far worse abuse than any other Labour leader and the fact that the press play a huge role in elections (Its the Sun wot won it) appears to escaped you..

Beating the Tories in the last election should have been like shooting fish in a barrel. Leading the country against the lies of Boris and Gove should have been easy. He failed.

But Labour weren't just fighting against the Conservatives, they had the vast majority of the mainstream media against them too, and that's an uphill battle irrespective of what May et al were doing. Prime example is the vilification of Diane Abbott, constant reporting of when she messed up her figures, yet barely anything when Hammond, May, Gove etc did the same.

The same with the anti semitism issue, where is all the reporting on the hate filled posts on Tory support sites? There's no doubting they exist, so why no mainstream reporting of them?

@Gabbyleo

You could swap a couple of terminologies around in your post to be pro-ukip, I am sure you would not be so supportive though..

I am always amazed when people claim not to read the daily mail yet they know a lot about its tone and contents!

If the antisemitism that JC has been stoking up isn't bad enough, he is now supporting a wife beating MP.

When JC stood up for Putin's rights as he attacked us with a nerve agent he lost any right to be responsible for this country. He can never become PM or our democracy will be dismantled.

What does the Labour party stand for? They aren't any different on the NHS to the Tories, no idea if he is still going to pay off all the student debt, he is against cake and eating it Brexit but he wants a cake and eating it Brexit, will he dismantle our armed forces? He wants to re-nationalise everything but wont tell us he will afford it, there will be more money for everyone but it wont cost us anything... what is labour for anymore, its just like UKIP.

An intelligence test really as to be introduced before allowing someone to vote.

This thread shows that student-style politics is alive and well.

Batshit mural - OMG!

Deaths from austerity- meh.

Life expectancy has dropped and infant mortality has increased. In the UK. In 2018.

Forgive me if I don't give a shit about a mural.

Fuck me i don’t find him amusing I find him totally weak ineffectual and frankly immature