To be devastated at the demise of the Labour Party, and to wonder how anyone can look at themselves in the mirror if they vote for Corbyn now?

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Just that really.

Been a Labour supporter all my life, til the last election. Because hell will freeze over before I will vote for Jeremy Corbyn.

I am literally devastated at the demise of the Labour party, that has been systematically destroyed from the inside out, by Corbyn and his cronies, and by Corbyn's pathetic behaviour. From his denial of bad behaviour from his party, to the way he shuts down anyone who challenges him. (Including reporters, and his own people ..... if they don't agree with everything he says, he sacks them.)

In the last election, for the first time ever in my life, I was unable to vote, because I am not voting for Conservatives. (Even so, if I HAD to vote by law, I would vote for Conservatives before I would vote for Labour.)

The Labour party is dying a slow and painful death, and is a laughing stock. First of all we have the standing joke that is Corbyn, with his bizarre 'extreme-left' bollocks, and refusing to answer any questions that don't suit him, .......'Mr Corbyn what about the antisemitism in in your party?' 'YES it is a nice day isn't it? Thank you, goodbye!' Fucking twit!

And then we have his ludicrous and laughable cronies... Diane 'can't count for toffee' Abbott, Monroe 'bigoted ranty' Bergdorf, and now Eddie fucking Izzard in a dress.

Even people I know who were obsessive Corbynites a year or so ago, are cringing with embarrassment now, as he turns the party into more of a laughing stock every day. And as I said in the thread title, how can anyone POSSIBLY support him and the Labour party now?

That's it really. I am literally so gutted at the demise of my party.

Until Corbyn fucks off and takes his cronies with him, Labour is dead to me. And I know a LOT of people who think the same!

R.I.P. The Labour Party. 😢😢😢

Even Momentum recognise the anti semitism in the party

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/02/labour-antisemitism-more-widespread-than-thought-momentum-says

Gottagetmoving

You are wrong - no party will ever be credible if they obsess over Israel and Palestine to the extent corbyn and his crowd do. Sticking up for other countries is one thing - but labour aren’t just doing that are they? This issue works for them because it attracts the voters important to them - rabid west haters. You are deluded if you think your beloved nhs and schools come any higher up the agenda than that

squeegle

Nothing wrong with him but he appeals mostly to London centric voices that Corbyn allresdy has!

To get elected got have to appeal to a broad church of opinion and to many people Corbyn is unelectable snd flaky.

Rinse and repeat

So someone painted a batshit mural, Corbyn states it is antisemitic but doesn't call for its destruction....

Way to misrepresent the situation, go and do some reading as to why he had to call it out as anti-semitic.

This is in a thread where its only the right wing who fall for fake news....

Ghost of

Cut out the equivocation - you need to remember we are part of the west. They are ‘our’ team and that’s what seems to elude you - most floating voters are not going to vote for a party that hates our own country, sides with our enemies on seemingly any question and is racist to boot

The Queen met McGuinness as our head of state in a carefully choreographed exercise at the "end" of a long peace process. Corbyn met Adams Just after the Brighton bomb as a no mark Labour MP posing to piss off the rest of his party. If you can't see the difference, you are an idiot.

ghosto

He wasn’t brokering a peace deal he was supporting the IRA. He and Abbott both did. You can’t airbrush facts.

The peace deal was brokered by Major and Blaire.

Corbyn may have opposed the Iraq War. He also opposed the Good Friday agreement. He is unable to exercise good judgement. He just likes to piss people off and extremists use that. Which is why he is a classic "useful idiot ".

British politicians had been meeting Irish republicans since the early 1970s.

I am not part on anyones “team”. It’s that sort of divisive bullshit that led to brexit and it’s fallout.

Exactly gussy

If you think Corbyn was part of the peace process you are more of a fool than your posts already show.

that's not true @Gussy

www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-corbyn-on-northern-ireland

The queen met Martin McGuinness. I guess this is fine but JC wanting to broker peace with Gerry Adams is wrong.

To be blunt, if you cannot see the difference between a head of state and a back bench MP then I feel you may not have the angle of your argument totally nailed down.

If you are to join the dots between his meetings and on record statements then bigger picture is far more from "being involved in the peace process", i bet you called out the "bad apples" in UKIP all day long though without any joined up thinking

Ghost of

But you are part of the western team whether you like it or not. You benefit from first world healthcare. You benefit from the rule of law. You need it from freedom of speech. You benefit from a whole host of western tradition freedoms and advantages. So yes you are on our team whether you like it or not.

That being so if you cannot understands why corbyn and his sixth form politics are so dangerous then you are frankly naive and foolish.

Corbyn did not oppose the GFA. Google it.

It’s this tidal wave of bullshit and misinformation in threads like this that makes me support JC even more.

Ghost of - you and Jc are welcome to each other - perhaps not best to leave your left wing internet bubble if the real world offends you. Luckily he will never lead our country and your views will remain in the minority

Whatever spin you put on his meetings with the IRA, he is failing to manage his party now - not internet randoms but MPs.

‘Check who you retweet’ shouldn’t be a difficult instruction to follow.

I may benefit from elements of western culture but when I critise other aspects of it, to some I become an enemy or traitor. This is why I am not part of any team. The world is not black and white.

I may benefit from elements of western culture but when I critise other aspects of it, to some I become an enemy or traitor. This is why I am not part of any team. The world is not black and white.

If it wasn't already blatantly obvious in this thread of how ignorant of nuanced facts you are then that statement might hold some weight, as it is your showing yourself up as nothing more than a devout follower...

I was a huge corbyn supporter. But his utter disinclination to do anything about the misogynist and anti-Semitic elements in his party (these are often the same people; the kind of mansplaining right on woke lefty dude bros who 18 year old me thought were so wise and revolutionary at university )

I’m not sure who I’d vote for now. I don’t trust any of them, and as a left leaning libertarian I feel politically homeless.

I also find it bloody hilarious that there are people who think anyone who doesn’t unquestioningly support the current iteration of the Labour Party is a Tory shill. I mean, seriously?

I’d rather be on the side of someone who stood up for their beliefs rather than happily swallowing lies just to be on the “winning” team.

He has always been a man brokering peace.

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Ghost of - that’s your issue - your beliefs are just plain wrong. Lucky for you you live in a western country that’s allows you to freely utter them. Try the same trick in the middle eastern and South American countries corbyn admires and you might understand why you are wrong

Corbyn did not oppose the Good Friday Agreement. That is absolute rubbish I'm afraid.

As for being in favour of a United Ireland, what is wrong with that, actually? Northern Ireland (as it is now) was wrongfully seized by the British, I see nothing wrong with supporting the rightful reunification of a divided country, a division that has led to massive bloodshed on both sides of the argument. Corbyn supports peace, he wanted a peaceful solution to the problem in N. Ireland - again, I honestly see nothing wrong with that.

At the minute he appears to be standing up for his belief that his MPs don’t really have to bother about anti-semitism. Either that or they are ignoring him.