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mammyoftwo · 2018-03-30T10:24:53+00:00

Following on from Instamums 3.2

MarshaBradyo · 30/03/2018 12:11

I don’t follow any of them but it’s a topic worth discussing

CadyHeron · 30/03/2018 12:11

@CadyHeron clutching at straws a bit there, aren't you?

Why? It's perfectly plausible. I know I do when I post anything on Facebook, for example. I post pictures of days out when I get home later on.

Sofialemon · 30/03/2018 12:12

I personally wouldn't choose to post photo's and info of my families day to day life on a public account with thousands of followers. Mainly as I wouldn't wand random people knowing so much and looking at pics of my children. That is my choice the same as it is anyone else's choice to post what they want where they want.

MarshaBradyo · 30/03/2018 12:12

It was really nice to hear not least because it hopefully means they will respect their friends more and each other’s right to put pictures up

Festivecheeseandcrackers · 30/03/2018 12:16

What are the sanctions if a blogger / instagrammer is found to be not disclosing paid for content? Maybe that's the problem, currently it doesn't seem to be closely regulated, there are guidelines but I'm not sure what the laws are regards social media marketing.

When I went to an ASA course a few year’s ago (maybe around 2014), social media promotions were just taking off but with celebrities. There was lots of questioning around it.

Things I remember were:

it had to be made clear if an ad was an ad. In terms of an ‘insta story’ or ‘snapchat’ type video, these weren’t around at the time but I imagine stating something was gifted would be ok.
It would be the brand who would be reported to the ASA rather than the individual promoting it. If a brand was reported, they would be investigate.
if it was judged that the product had not been clearly shown to be an ad, the brand would be penalised
In the case of celebrities I seem to remember they would be sanctioned if found to have done something wrong as well as the brand. Not sure how this would translate to a blogger. They may have more scope for pleading ignorance.

finks100 · 30/03/2018 12:21

This video is shown in schools by the police, there is a version without the school children talking, it is shorter but I can't find it. Imagine sitting in class and watching it, then explained but my parents do all of this!?

Fruitbowl2 · 30/03/2018 12:22

Festive they were implemented/updated for SM in 2017.

www.asa.org.uk/news/Insight-affiliate-marketing-new-advertising-guidance-for-social-influencers.html

MadameGrizzly · 30/03/2018 12:22

Article 16 of the Convention of the Rights of the Child notes children are entitled to privacy.

It isn't just what a parent thinks is best.

Privacy is a child's fundamental right.

Fruitbowl2 · 30/03/2018 12:25

The link says influencers will also be held responsible. And require AD, not gifted or 'thank you'!

whopureedmypeas · 30/03/2018 12:28

I'm not sure who posted up-thread saying "I post pics of my children every year in their school uniform, in front of the front door and they've never been kidnapped" So do I, but I don't put the rest of my life out there and I think this is what some posters feel could be a problem.

Some of the Insta-Mums have huge following, some have literally
hundreds of thousands in the cases of Anna Saccone et al, and I personally don't think it's a huge leap to suggest that they might get the odd creep following them.

I watched a lot of the insta mums in the past, not so much anymore as tend to follow craft.cookery now but I do remember one thing that stood out regarding safety.

It was an Instagram live video of Mrs M, ages ago now. She was talking about some guy who worked in the local supermarket, she had never met him before, and he was talking to her like they were friends - something like that anyway. She was really freaked out, and I remember thinking at the time. Well you kind of put yourself in the public eye? So wouldn't you expect people to recognise you? It just didn't make much sense.

Maybe the guy was just making conversation - maybe he was a bit creepy. But she was very open about where she lives, its a small village and in the past her videos clearly show her home, parents home, cafes they frequented etc, at least they did. And her husband worked away. I remember thinking IF someone was following, and had developed an unhealthy obsession with her, then it wouldn't be that hard to track them down.

So because of this. I think that the child protection question from a pp is a very valid one, and one I would like to see addressed by the insat mums.

I don't think the poster ^KitKat is Mrs M though, I might be wrong I thought it sounded like Brummy*

faceandpalm · 30/03/2018 12:32

@Fruitbowl2 Thank you for continuing to post that. It brings the conversation back into focus.

Fruitbowl2 · 30/03/2018 12:38

Thanks face. I'm hoping the instas might dip into it at some point!

MadameGrizzly · 30/03/2018 12:38

How do you know that they post photos in "real time," though?

Sorry, I missed this, Cady.

Off the top of my head: Jetsetmama is on a plane to Dubai and her husband and daughter are at home. MOD is in St Lucia and FOD and the twins are at home. Laura Fantacci, her daughters and I assume her husband are in Italy. CLTS and her family is in France. Lululdumas (more a fashion grammer) and her husband just arrived home from Marrakesh.

They are storying their travel movements in real time.

jamoncrumpets · 30/03/2018 12:42

Also, if they're NOT storying their travel movements in real time but are passing them off as being spontaneous, that's a bit weird too! FOD does this a lot, makes out stuff is happening in real time when it's clearly a different time of day to the one he claims - it's simply to maximise engagement (and therefore earnings).

MadameGrizzly · 30/03/2018 12:42

Justalittlebuild is showing her family at their holiday home in Cornwall in real time. She also advertises the property for holiday leases and has extensively storied the interior.

I'm not even a heavy Instagram user!

JeffreyNeedsAHobby · 30/03/2018 12:43

I have an instagram account but I only let people I know follow me. As far as I am aware though people who are abused are usually done so by someone they know who is in a position of trust. The chances of this being someone on your friends list is higher IMO than someone travelling across country, but clearly you can't rule it out and the more 'famous' you make your kid the bigger the audience.

jamoncrumpets · 30/03/2018 12:45

The more followers you have the more likely you are to have creeps follow you, so I don't understand the posts here from 'regular' mums saying 'well I post pics of my kids in school uniform and they're still alive'. You have about 495,500 fewer followers than the likes of MOD!

Reallycantbebothered · 30/03/2018 12:45

An instamum I follow is now down at their holiday home in Devon( live stories) , yet only the other day posted photos of their ( full time) home and in depth floor plan....easy enough for some weirdo to find out on line where they live and case the joint....best keep some things private

CadyHeron · 30/03/2018 12:54

FOD does this a lot, makes out stuff is happening in real time when it's clearly a different time of day to the one he claims - it's simply to maximise engagement (and therefore earnings).

See, I don't see that as doing it to maximise earnings, that sounds more sensible to me! You're not broadcasting that you're not at home. Sounds more like a safety measure to me.
As for those mentioned saying half of the family are at home, then they're not really "away" then, are they.

BlueSapp · 30/03/2018 12:56

No one gave Justalittlebuild the house though, she runs it as a business, the story she did is just showing the diy they are doing she has a separate account for the holiday home where she promotes it for rental. Tbf any of her stories or posts where someone send her something for noting shes been totally clear about it

Mumofkids · 30/03/2018 12:58

@cadyheron have you never seen him stressing about timing? 8pm is prime time for exposure, likes and money. It's quite sweet to assume he's being careful but the amount he shows live time as well makes it clear it's not that. He'll get some good twin action and save it.
Look at his posts. @21000 likes for a photo of him, 66000 likes for twinnies. It's a business.

Fruitbowl2 · 30/03/2018 13:00

Ah that's interesting mumofkids I hadn't thought about the timing of posts. How savvy.

Stellastartsitall · 30/03/2018 13:01

I thought it was just a after work and dinner thing.

MadameGrizzly · 30/03/2018 13:02

I'm banging on about child protection and privacy, BlueSapp.

If half the family are at home/away it makes the children slightly more vulnerable as only one parent is about.

A lot of those accounts I followed for the clothes or interiors. I really don't need to know what their children are up to in real time, yet obviously the children are part of the instagramner's brand, so here we are.

CadyHeron · 30/03/2018 13:06

Well, if his brand is his business it makes sense to maximise earnings then.
You'd be pretty rubbish at it if you posted randomly early morning say, when everyone's out at work and less likely to be scrolling Instagram.
Common sense says you post later in the evening so more people see.
People discussing the safety aspects - seems you can't do right whatever you do.
Don't post in real time, you're weird. Or duping people or whatever.
Do post in real time, you're compromising your safety/privacy.
Going to foreign climes and leaving the family at home - they're at home so not so much a problem safety wise then.
Be different if "look, I'm on holiday and my house is empty..." that'd be daft.