Instamums 4

[mammyoftwo]

Following on from Instamums 3.2

Cady and Sofia clearly have a different viewpoint on use of children and transparency of ads

Nowhere have I said that people shouldn't be clear with ads. Of course they should.
As for how others parent - it's up to them. Those banging on about like "feckless for letting them loose" etc - you do know it'll all be staged, right?!
They'll hardly be being neglected.
Nowhere have I said too that privacy shouldn't be adhered to. If you use full names and let everyone know where you live and put yourself out there, then of course you should be taking more care as that's not a sensible thing to do.

Thank you @Handsoffmysweets I wondered how it worked.

@MrsCampbell re

Sofia - what do you think should happen to the money that the children make for their instamums? Not beign snarky - am genuinely interested?

I'm not sure really. In my family I think I would choose to use some of it on things that would benefit our children. Perhaps expensive holidays that we otherwise couldn't afford but that they'd love. More frequent short breaks to places they enjoy going, or doing activities they love but that are a bit too expensive to do regularly otherwise.

The rest I would split equally between my daughters savings accounts and our own.

@Gobbolin

1. Have a skin in the game and are therefore not impartial as their order of priorities are a free tumble dryer or a meal in Cote rather than safeguarding their children. That is a matter of fact before I am accused of being a vile jealous bully

Really!!

MOD hasn't really promoted/advertised this holiday very well. Her posts are all 'look at me'..... not seen much of the accommodation, food etc.... so not really selling it at all

That's interesting to know, handsoff. I follow quite a few people on Instagram, I think you can always tell who has "bought" or asked for comments.
You can spot "non real" engagement a mile off.

runmummyrun, totally agree. Emma Hill went to Disney recently (a fashion blogger not instamum I know but still a good yardstick for social media promotional deals), she promoted it really well, insta feed, stories, numerous you tube uploads, Disney got a lot of bang for their buck when they invested in funding that trip.

MOD, hmmm, not seeing much. If I was working for Destinology PR, I'd be questioning that deal.

MOD hasn't really promoted/advertised this holiday very well. Her posts are all 'look at me'..... not seen much of the accommodation, food etc.... so not really selling it at all

Just been to have a look. (Bet she's loving all this extra traffic.)
If you're advertising somewhere, surely it makes sense to make it look like you're having a good time?
You're going to post yourself. Enjoying yourself.
We have -
splashing in the sea
drinking cocktails
beautiful scenery/weather
etc
and the resort hashtagged in (so there's the ad. People will think "ooh, that looks nice, where is it? and maybe follow/look it up.
(Plus they're all clearly marked ad before someone says.)

Cady I like hearing different points of views and debating them on threads like this, but when you come onto the thread calling people the ad police, implying we are weird, over invested and all bitches then is it any wonder people may not wish to engage?

@Mumofkids

I think the last serious decision my 12 yr old made was whether to have ice cream for desert or not. What kind of decisions is your 11 yr old making that could be along the lines of being sold on the internet?

I'm not saying my 11 year old makes life changing decisions, she has no need to. The children on insta are not being sold, thats inflammatory and ridiculous.

The children of many instamums are younger so not old enough to make an informed decision on anything. The ones who look about 8/9 and older seem to make their own choice if they are in photos or not. They may not understand the "risks" of having their photo on insta but their parents can safeguard them so I don't see the issue.

mumofkids earlier in the week FOD's parents commented on his post that they'd see him on Thursday (he's featured them previously - no stalking here 🙌🏻). Maybe they told him to STFU. One can only hope.

A lot of the comments on posts nowadays seem to be from other bloggers or wannabe bloggers. You’d have to strip that out to measure the proper engagement that benefits the brands.

Cady I like hearing different points of views and debating them on threads like this, but when you come onto the thread calling people the ad police, implying we are weird, over invested and all bitches then is it any wonder people may not wish to engage?

Good,glad to hear you do like hearing other viewpoints. Some clearly don't, though.
As you can see, I discuss points sensibly when people actually want to discuss and not just be nasty/want to pull down.

But it's quite obvious that not all parents on Instagram are safeguarding their children. Again, that's a matter of fact

Just because a child is young and cannot raise concerns about their own privacy and safety does not mean that a parent is free to breach that

It's like saying a toddler seemed quite happy to run into the road so it's fine they were squashed. When in fact the accident was entirely preventable if the parents had taken reasonable safety or precautions

Legally, any money earned or bequeathed to a child belongs to that child. It is not money to be divied up amongst the other family members

Yes I do, and I’m enjoying your contribution now

socialblade is useful for highlighting bought followers

Yes I do, and I’m enjoying your contribution now

Gobbolin

Legally, any money earned or bequeathed to a child belongs to that child. It is not money to be divied up amongst the other family members.

I would have thought with insta it would be very difficult in many posts to say who is earning the money. It's the parent taking the photos, putting the work in to stage the shots, they are often in the shot with the child.

@handsoffmysweets as a business are you able to measure the impact the 'influencer' has for you? I ask because there's a insta I follow who is very regularly doing ads/receiving 'gifts' from the sort of brands the average mn may stereotypically like. On one hand I understand her appeal to these brands, she very much fits these brands profile, but she has almost 22k followers yet often only has maybe 250 likes and 5 comments on a grid post and the comments are often people she is clearly rl friends with, so in that respect, I struggle to see how she is actually benefitting the brands.

But it's quite obvious that not all parents on Instagram are safeguarding their children. Again, that's a matter of fact

Re the above, how is that statement a matter of fact? Surely if it was Social Services would be involved?!

@handsoff and @nipers - The bought followers thing is blowing up in Ireland. I posted a link to something the other day (other thread?) - now the brand has dropped the blogger in question as she couldn’t prove her followers weren’t bought

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