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When a nation’s children marched, and their President ignored them - Trump cont.

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TheClaws · 29/03/2018 01:36

For me, the Parkland children being belittled and abused in so many ways is utterly heartbreaking to witness. But they have been more adult than the adults in their response. They have shown us what faith means, and bravery. POTUS? He is made much, much smaller.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3198255--In-politics-stupidity-is-not-a-handicap-We-know-this-now-Trump-thread-cont

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cozietoesie · 10/04/2018 10:44

And.

Lweji · 10/04/2018 10:52

Remember how Trump would sort out Syria in one week? Sad All he needed was some phone calls.

lionheart · 10/04/2018 10:53

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/geoffrey-berman-trump_us_5acc09dce4b0337ad1eb041c

'Geoffrey Berman even donated to Trump's campaign.'

ohmymimi · 10/04/2018 10:58

Some good news, Yulia Skripal is out of hospital.

PerkingFaintly · 10/04/2018 11:30

Yes, that's absolutely marvellous news about Yulia Skripal. I'm concerned her long term situation might not be good though. I have a neurological condition but have never been in a coma from it, and mine's been more than enough to stop me being able to work or reliably care for myself 100%, as well as taking away the fun things like reading books or leaving the house.

I'm concerned for the policeman as well, that he may not recover enough to do his job again (he sounds like a really cracking cop).

ohmymimi · 10/04/2018 12:02

Perking, that report did make it clear that Yulia's hospital release did not in any way indicate full recovery. I didn't know you have to live with such a serious health issue, but your insight does vividly bring home the potential long term effects Yulia, her father and Sgt. Bailey may face.

Roussette · 10/04/2018 12:11

I am smelling an air of desperation from 45.

Latest tweets...

"Attorney Client privilege is dead!"

Followed by
"A TOTAL WITCH HUNT!!!!"

The more exclamation marks the more jittered he is.

TheClaws · 10/04/2018 12:27

He’s lost the power of tweet.

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PerkingFaintly · 10/04/2018 12:45

My heart sank when I learned people had been poisoned with a neurological toxin. If your body doesn't die from it, it can still kill the person you were.

I'm actually really, really upset for the policeman, as I have an inkling he'll never be anything close to what he was before, and that his job was really important to him. Damage to your brain affects your ability to cope cognitively and emotionally with all your other losses, so it's multiple whammies. I spent years beating myself up for being so shit at everything and – worse – becoming a burden to other people when I used to be the one helping them.

It'll be bad for the Skripals too, of course. I just identify with the policeman because right now he's probably expecting to go back to his normal work and I know what his dawning realisation may be like.

But I do realise this is quibbling about details given the chemical attack in Syria.Sad

Roussette · 10/04/2018 13:09

Perking you speak from experience. Flowers

TheClaws · 10/04/2018 13:36

Perking, I understand you. I had to give up my job due to ongoing neurological issues, primarily cognitive. Very difficult to come to terms with - I still haven’t. I cannot explain it to anyone except those closest to me, as I don’t expect anyone else to understand. I’m a relatively young person but this has slowed me down considerably, and I can’t do much about it.

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PerkingFaintly · 10/04/2018 13:59

But I did have cheesey nachos yesterday = life not so bad.Grin

ohmymimi · 10/04/2018 14:04

I know it is not what T. meant, but atty/client priv. is dead between him and Cohen now, so any future contact is not protected by priv. Mr. 'Sezhoo?' has been a mainstay of the Trumpiverse for around 10 years; the fixer/dirty dealer/bagman, who knows where lots of the bodies are buried.
I think all evidence shows T. is irredeemably lazy. He has never really worked, he just rolled into his office each day and talked on the phone. He never writes more than a couple of phrases, he hasn't the discipline/interest to read anything where his name doesn't appear at regular intervals. All the heavy lifting has always been done by all the satellites in the Trumpiverse, while T. just freewheeled - believing he's the Sun King (whereas he's more a black hole).
Cohen is the closest to family who has been hit, but his lengthy closeness to T. is probably mainly driven by financial self-interest, which seems to be the basis (on both sides) for all T.'s enduring relationships. So how flippable is Cohen?
T. must be rattled, and as self-protection is prime for him, these are even more dangerous times.

Lweji · 10/04/2018 14:22

If DJT denies having anything to do with the Stormy Daniels payout, is it covered by attorney-client privilege?

ohmymimi · 10/04/2018 15:12

www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/attorney-client-privilege.html
Lweji, some useful detail in 'Past and Future Misbehaviour' para. on the crime fraud exception.

T. has ditched the S.America Summit visit 'because Syria'. More likely because tantrum.

ohmymimi · 10/04/2018 15:18

www.sgrlaw.com/ttl-articles/916/
This is more detailed.

Thanks to Donny Dolly Hands Dinky Dick I'm learning all sorts of fascinating stuff I never knew I needed to know.Smile

Lweji · 10/04/2018 15:24

Or, more specifically, are records of bank transfers regarding a certain $130 000 considered as under client-attorney privilege, for example?

ohmymimi · 10/04/2018 15:24
A reminder that Mikey's such a charmer. Latest: Tom Bossert is running for cover - resig. just announced.
MissMarplesKnitting · 10/04/2018 15:31

amp.thedailybeast.com/fbi-raid-on-michael-cohen-is-the-most-dangerous-day-of-donald-trumps-life?source=twitter&via=mobile&__twitter_impression=true

This had me laughing out loud on public transport embarrasing laugh snort was produced

Sleipnirthewonderhorse · 10/04/2018 15:31

Unfortunate old tweet from Michael Cohen-

Michael Cohen
@MichaelCohen212
@HillaryClinton when you go to prison for defrauding America and perjury, your room and board will be free!
3:03 am · 20 Dec 2015

ohmymimi · 10/04/2018 15:42

Lweji, not sure. Some reporting this a.m. covered the FBI's use of a 'taint team' in raids involving attorneys. The taint team works discretely to review all records to ensure nothing is put into the investigation which encroaches on privilege. (That was the technicality used to Oliver North off the hook.)
This has more info:
www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/09/michael-cohen-fbi-raid-attorney-client-privilege/501564002/

cozietoesie · 10/04/2018 16:05

I just read that Beast piece, MissMarples. It's a good bath of confirmation bias - but I enjoyed the soak. Grin

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