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blackmirror1 · 27/03/2018 12:42

Seeing as the original 3 got zapped.

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Mamaj2017 · 27/03/2018 20:14

Mental health or not, Asha should not get an easy ride here. How Natasha is getting all the negatives is beyond me. Their relationship was built on a lie, Asha was very calculated in many many ways. Absolutely disgusting behaviour from her & Natasha gets the slack... wow!

AdidasGirl · 27/03/2018 20:21

I'm not excusing Ashas behaviour @Mamaj2017 And I never have.
But should NB really be putting herself out there with a MH website etc when after the shock had sunk in realised that to lie about something so awful,Asha had to be very mentally ill? Instead she did vile things back.
Asha is paying for what she has done.NB is benefiting.
I am not gonna go on about this anymore now.
I don't want to detract from the real issue here about transparency and instamums.
MP's post today was excellent.
If only others would take a lead out of her book.

Mumofkids · 27/03/2018 20:22

Mamaj2017 her response was appalling, it was everywhere. No one is saying that what happened was ok but that response was disgusting. It's unbelievable that when faced with one of the most extreme forms of mental illness that was her choice of managing it.

AdidasGirl · 27/03/2018 20:22

*leaf.(Damn Fingers)

Mumofkids · 27/03/2018 20:24

Motherpukka really is someone who is looking at the bigger picture and an intelligent, articulate woman. It is so fascinating how many people want to speak out about some accounts, but I suppose they are still a tiny minority.

blackmirror1 · 27/03/2018 20:35

JessicaPeach - no I don't think so. Yes to twins but I don't think she'd do sanctimonious breast fed stuff

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samatamfabahaba · 27/03/2018 20:44

Poppy is brilliant. Always very clear on her gifted/#ad stuff and certainly didn't seem to me to be sanctimonious about anything. I've followed her for about 10 years though so I might be biased.

JessicaPeach · 27/03/2018 20:49

I dont find her at all sanctimonious, but there were a lot of formula posts/stories, always met and agreed with the 'fed is best hun' type comments. I think she had a good platform there to help people to understand why that message is so poisonous but there are obviously a lot of feelings there about not having been able to breastfeed. It wasnt just that reason why I stopped following her but the formula pic was when I hit unfollow. We arent a good fit!

samatamfabahaba · 27/03/2018 20:52

I totally understand, we can't all love eachother, and we can't all agree on everything. I'm just glad my instagram is where I post pics of me and kid mostly being covered in food and new ways she learns to make my heart fall out my arse with terror. I couldn't deal with having other people's opinions of what I'm doing and how I'm doing it, paid or not. I'm not sure ANY amount of free holidays or hand cream or baby beds is worth it.

Fruitbowl2 · 27/03/2018 20:55

Watching you see what happens to this latest comment on MOD's post today....

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auditqueen · 27/03/2018 21:01

I'm not a mum and my instagram presence consists of posting pictures of my dog, so the whole instamum thing is a complete mystery to me. However, since reading the threads on here I can't help but wonder about this new way of making money. In some ways it is just advertising with the odd piece of writing of variable quality - just like we see in a copy of Vogue or other glossy mag. We were all brought up with the insidiousness of advertising and we've all benefited from it - anyone here ever pestered parents for toys for Christmas after seeing the copious and well timed ads?

But this feels different somehow. While advertising on TV and other mainstream media has become more tightly regulated, this new media seems to exist solely to sell a lifestyle that is unobtainable for most people.

I think what I find most disturbing is that these women are targeting often vulnerable women who may be isolated and struggling with the demands of a parenthood with the very clear message of "this is how it is done". Normalising expensive holidays and designer clothes and immaculate homes and loving partners.

It also alienates a whole section of women - the ones like me who look at these women and feel even more inadequate than we do normally, because our lives are not full of babies and cuddles - but pain and empty wombs.

Women are not sheep. We do not need "influencing" or being told thst we must support the sisterhood and never question or criticise. The women that are demanding this are as bad as the men who patronise and subject us to discrimination.

I do support @badmotherpukka and the flex appeal. It is a great campaign and flexible working should be the norm for many different professions; but I firmly believe that it should be available for everyone, not just parents, so maybe I'm at odds with society again....

VileyRose · 27/03/2018 21:07

She won't reply to that question!

Fruitbowl2 · 27/03/2018 21:09

So nicely put auditqueen. I'm pretty sure the flex appeal promotes flexible work for everyone, parents or not. And I totally agree. I have been lucky enough to be able to work flexibly, but had a colleague without children challenge me about it and I agreed with them it wasn't fair.

AdidasGirl · 27/03/2018 21:13

Well said @auditqueen

Fruitbowl2 · 27/03/2018 21:15

But there are 3 likes so far vileyrose it's progress! It would be so great if she took it on board. That's all we are asking re advertising isn't it!

PavlovaPrincess · 27/03/2018 21:19

Good post @auditqueen

(Although MP has tried to make it clear that Flexible working applies to everyone in her campaign, not just mums. Perhaps it not quite coming across)

Aftertheharvest · 27/03/2018 21:35

I've read this thread with interest as there are quite a few instamums I enjoy following. But I am totally fed up seeing flouting of the clear ASA rules so pleased to see that others feel the same.

A recent post and video from Emily Norris (who I had enjoyed ads and all) has annoyed me greatly. Easter baskets featuring expensive personalised toys with nothing in the insta post about whether they were free and the YouTube video called a collaboration, presumably with affiliate links should you wish to pay over one hundred quid for some personalised musical instruments. I find it all a bit disrespectful to those who follow and watch.

I don't recall ever seeing the Meldrums disclosing whether they use affiliate links and certainly havent seen many posts being clear that what is being modelled was a freebie. As others have said tagging is not transparency.

I think the time is up for this lack of transparency and I hope the ASA start to act soon. The instamums could head this off by following the lead of MP and drawing a line in the sand. I don't mind ads, I just don't want to be treated like a mug by the benefits to the influencer of a particular post or video not being disclosed.

mammyoftwo · 27/03/2018 21:38

Just watched Annalesha's story on Bake Off SU2C. PERSPECTIVE.

SplatPancake · 27/03/2018 21:42

Have found these threads very interesting when not being derailed.

A PP was talking about numbers of followers before being offered campaigns - the Irish Blogggers Unveiled instagram account has published an interesting take from a brand’s point of view today

instagram.com/p/Bg1eeJ0HcmY/

auditqueen · 27/03/2018 21:44

Sorry, I think I jumped to a totally inaccurate conclusion there re flex appeal. In which case thank you @badmotherpukka and hope you get some success with this campaign.

HeedMove · 27/03/2018 21:52

I do think a lot of you are underestimating how much some of them are making. Mrs M does a lot of paid promotions and “collabs” today’s one being with Iceland and will get paid from channel mum and from YouTube although I believe it’s decreased recently. I believe ads on your video on YouTube also pay. Then there’s the gift cards and freebies like tickets for the local theatre, whatever the deal is with neilson, gift cards to do hauls and food shops. If you sold some of your freebies it could mount up. I can believe she makes as much as Mr M did.

AdidasGirl · 27/03/2018 21:54

Anyone else seen MP's reply to MODs?
Let's see what happens now.

Fruitbowl2 · 27/03/2018 21:57

auditqueen Matt here says flexappeal is for everyone, but acknowledges they see it as a crunch point for parents.

motherpukka.co.uk/blog/flex

I can totally understand why you might see these things and various IG images as alienating, if it's any comfort I have often found them just as alienating as a parent.

PavlovaPrincess · 27/03/2018 21:57

Can't find it! What's she said?!

PavlovaPrincess · 27/03/2018 21:58

That was to @AdidasGirl