To think Mumsnet is OBSESSED

[AccidentalKylie]

I used to read Mumsnet because it was a lot of clever, funny women talking about stuff I was interested in, but it's become a one issue forum. It's exhausting.

Charlie - yes indeed. Yet another example of why self ID would make bad law - and very grounded in science and medicine.

ANightWatcher. thanks....I don't envy your task

for the NightWatch.

Ah I see, so was it just more of the "you shut up because I say so" stuff. I agree, please leave this thread to stand, shows the mindset and technique employed in trying to silence women

Yes this.

ANightWatcher there's an excellent fantasy story called the Night Watch by Sergei Lukyanenko and part of the blurb reads:

As a Night Watch agent [he] must patrol the streets and metro of the city, protecting ordinary people from the vampires and magicians of the Dark.

That's you that is...

the thing is though that by keeping on posting it keeps it in active.

and people can read why some people think they should sign the petition: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/214118

they can also see why some people have issues with self ID and why some people don't. It gives people more opportunity to discuyss the issue and consider why some people are worried.

Charlie I love that 😂

Oh no! Not a block list!!

ANightWatcher - I think having the ability to suspend a poster for a few hours should be available to you and your team. It could be that the one particular poster is being a goady fucker, or could genuinely be in distress. Either way, a brief suspension until the day team can have a look at it would be best for all concerned. Hope you're not in for a long night hitting that button.

I think Mumsnet has become a victim of its own success and is no longer what it set out to be.
It used to be so valuable in terms of parenting. It's now a wide open forum for anything.
It's a case of hiding stuff that you aren't interested in but the topics have become so wide, and then there's the trolls 🙄

Is that an AIBU list or is it a subtopic forum where you might expect those kind of topics? I just choose what messages I want to read and skip the rest, it's kind of like reading a newspaper or looking at my sky box menu. I really don't see the problem, you have a choice.

Who knew that humans with ovaries and wombs could create such a stir

Another poster here wanting to thank MNHQ (and the Nightwatch) for allowing this debate to flourish here, no doubt in the face of serious pressure.

It used to be so valuable in terms of parenting. It's now a wide open forum for anything.

It still is really valuable in parenting. Loads of good boards to ask advice on any aspects of parenting, from weaning to teenager advice.
Sometimes parents aren't always in parent mode, and are people in their own right and want to "talk" to other grown ups and have proper debates away from Cbeebies.
Being a parent you're still a grown adult wanting grown adult topics.
(Aware there's people who aren't parents, or just random people out for debates too.)
Funny as I was thinking earlier today how some seriously under-estimate Mumsnet. (Not you,OP, just general musing.)
It's not just mums talking about what jam they should be making next, or little Charlie just sat up for the first time.
Real people, all walks of life, experience, status, genuine opinions out there. Outside of a bubble that usually exists elsewhere on the internet.
Which, coming back to the subject, I think it's great that MN is here allowing discussion. It's not allowed anywhere else.

Nightwatch you're brill

Rockshandy, that is an excellent post, hidden away amongst all the hidden messages

"It is about the 1960's women's movement. And throughout it there are women on film at that time, saying they didn't understand the need for it. They liked cooking and cleaning, they didn't see the problem."

Yes - and the same for the vote in the early 1900s. Some women didn;t want the vote. Believed the men in Parliament when they said women's interests were well catered for by their husbands and fathers. If it were down to those women, we would never have got the vote.

Following the news events around the votes for women anniversary I have realised a number of things. In no particular order - suffragettes never said NAMALT. They enacted vandalism against property (never people), but had physical, bodily violence enacted upon them. They were called names. They were called not real women. Unladylike. A terrible insult then.

This current assault against women's rights is just more of the same. Different century, different laws, but the same aims - to keep women oppressed by men.

Is that an AIBU list or is it a subtopic forum where you might expect those kind of topics?

It's an exact screen shot of the feminist board active conversations from what I can make out. Which begs the question why you'd be in there in the first place if you didn't like the subject so much

For she invented, medicinal compound
Most efficacious in every case

@eridanus

Is that an AIBU list or is it a subtopic forum where you might expect those kind of topics?

It's from the Feminist board, though the OP would have you think it's from active topics or AIBU.

Personally I see no reason to delete it when it's just one person being disruptive. I'm sure MNHQ will leave it in the morning.

I'm logging off for now. Not sure if any other NW are around so any more problems please PM me cos that way I get an email notification 😊

I find MN endlessly useful in terms of parenting advice and support and always have even back when I just used to read.

I also like that it’s a forum that doesn’t treat parents as only that. We are adults and between us, outside (and even inside) parenting we have a wide and varied scope of interests, passions and politics. We aren’t just parents.

@CircleSquareCircleSqare What's that from? Tip of my tongue...